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Postby stickdude » Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:32 am

I've got 15,000 hands of $.50/$1 in my new database (since 12/21)... Fire away!

I am trying to get my VP$P and PFR% numbers up. My targets for those two are 25/16... I'm also trying to get my blind steal % up to 30%.

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Postby Marm » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:11 pm

OK... my two cents here.... And remember, play the cards, not your PT stats.......All your numbers could have been swayed by just variance.

VPIP seems a touch loose, I prefer to see 17-20% here....

You wimp out in blind defense.... I have maybe a 50% fold SB to steal, and 30% in BB. Usually I'm raising with the SB, and about half the time in the BB I'm calling to see a flop with intent to CR it, regardless of the flop. And your HU BB fold rate is pathetic. Personally, I try to 3 bet here about 2/3 of the time. Of course, a good read on your opponent is key in blind defense.

And attacking the blinds? 23%? Weak. I think 50-75% (depending on your opponents) is a good rate. The more observant your opponents though, the less you can do it. You keep beating on their blinds too much and they will start to notice and to fire back, and now you've taken the game to the third and fourth levels, and out of control. So give them a little breathing room to let them know you're not a complete psycho, and they won't get TOO offended by your frequent steals. Also, if you can find that the blinds are multi tabling, then it makes it all that more lucrative, since they will be playing a lot more ABC style, allowing you to steal more.

Your BB/100 is a touch low, 2-3 is the goal. But oh well, variance. Anything above 0 is good.

Your WTSD and W$SD look very good. Maybe your WTSD is a touch low, but that is just style preference. I tend to look people up on the river, since by then the pot odds usually dictate it. I would start looking for a few more value calls on the river. Be smart about it though.

Your PFR rate seems a little psychotic. I find at SSH, taking some of the marginal hands that you seem to be raising and allowing a few more players to limp in adds to their value. Now, in LP with these marginal hands, it's good to raise to shut out the rest of the table and try to get it PF or on the Flop, but from EP or MP, where you will be OOP, limping saves bets, and adds more value to the pot for when you do hit.



Aight..... just typed all this then realized it was 6max. Fuck that.


This was all intended for FR. So take what you can from my analysis. My criticism of Blind defense is doubly important now......
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Postby Pok 7's » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:58 pm

Stick I think we're in about the same position, my #'s tend to be pretty similar to yours, and I'm looking to play more around 24-25/16 myself. Although I tend to defend my BB a little more I'm in the 51-52% zone. I think MK and Red are a little more on the LAggy side but not by much but more of where we're looking to be. Aside from the horrid run I hit I was running around 2.25 BB/100 for about my first 18K hands or so. Mostly bad play and some bad beats knocked me down to about .5 BB/100 and have bounced back up into the 1-1.5 zone for the time being. Honestly I have been card and flop dead for quite a while, my last few thousand hands I've been under 20% VPIP, not by choice.... just a lot of rag hands. My plan is to play another 25K hands or so and see if I can be back around the 2 BB/100 zone with my normal game.

I think in order to hit a 25/16 zone I think it's a combination of increasing blind steals, 3 betting in LP and raising out of the blinds. Another theory I have been considering is for the levels we play, (.5/1, 1/2) possibly even 2/4 but I haven't played much at that level. Is if people just aren't going to get off a hand is it beneficial to open up our game more? We can open up our LP raises but for the most part if the blinds or whoever we 3 bet are going to go to the SD a high % of the time we're not going to get by on making moves all that often. Same applies to raising out of the blinds, at these levels a lot of people are playing any 2, and will SD bottom pair.

At a lot of the lower levels we're usually playing showdown poker the majority of the time. With the ranges we're playing we can usually have something worthy of a SD. The more marginal hands we add may or may not increase our overall win rate, but I don't have enough experience IMO to decide. I'm still playing around a lot in 6 max, I recently actually started playing .25/.50 on another site, partly for a bonus but also to experiment a bit with my game.
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Postby redhouse » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:46 pm

I don't know where you're playing, but a 23% steal rate is pretty low. Thats pretty much the same as the range of legitimate late position opening hands. I'd bump that up by adding a few SCs etc. And you dont seem to defend your BB a lot. I defend with virtually any two so thats another extreme, but i'm almost positive you'd benfit from defending a little more liberally (as long as you do it aggressively). Piers has quite a few threads on the topic. Other than that, looks good. The only other thing is usually when I see a W$SD above 55% that suggests the guy may be folding a lot of semi-marginal hands which have value. Hard to say from 15k hands though.
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