Hey Guys,

It has been a LONG time since I have posted here and I have missed this site alot. But due to some serious family problems things had to take a backburner. Never again will that happen. What's up Bricheck and MVP...If you are still here?

Ok so on with the hands,

All these hands are against your typical 2-5 donks. Its been a while since I have played so let me have it!

Hand #1

I am dealt in BB and limp after 3 limpers and SB completes.

flop: $10

SB bets $2, I raise to $4, all folds back to SB who makes it $6, I call.

turn; $22

SB bets $5, I raise to $10, SB reraise to $15, and I call $5

river; $52

SB bets $5, I call $5

SB flips over [6d] for the flipped nut straight

My thinking: On the flop I have middle pair, backdoor nut FD and BD straight as well. When the SB leads i deffinatley want to raise his bet to try to get some of my opponents out. When he RR me I figured he had overpair, 34s, or a set, with the possibility of the straight.The turn comes and when he RR my turn raise I knew I was behind and just called down. But I had toi make that raise as a majority of the time donks will call me with all sorts of worse hands. Any problems here?


Hand #2


I get in BB and raise it to $4 after 4 limpers and SB completes.

flop : $24

SB checks, I check, all checlk to agro LP who bets $2, SB folds, I reraise to $4 and all others fold and LP calls $2

turn : $32

I bet $5, LP call $5

river: $42

I check, Agro bets $5, I call $5

Agro has

My thinking: I had to check on that flop and hope for a LP bettor so I could C/R. If I bet I was gonna get all sorts of caller with naked aces and stuff (as for one bet they won't usually fold) With the LAG in LP i thought I would get that bet (AND DID!). I was planning on betting again on the turn if I improved on my two overcards and my BD FD. And on the turn I had a who bunch of outs 9 for nut flush, 4 for nut straight, plus my other 6 outs which easily could have been good against this guy. Thoughts???

welcome back! Although I wasn't around when you are here so I guess that is meaningless.

Hand 1: It is a 5 way pot - if it was 4 way I really love the play but 5 way is getting a little dicey as you really want to be able to isolate the SB betting out. SB leading into a field of 5 USUALLY means he has something, probably a 7 or better, and if he has top pair he is sticking like glue. Now if SB is the type that likes to lead out on bland flops then it is a different story.
Once you hit the 4 on the turn you are screwed and I play it like you did.

Hand 2: I LOVE the preflop raise but some here will tell you they don't like it - especially those that play mostly NL - no offense meant briachek - but limit is all about pushing small edges. KQs has a pot equity advantage against what a bunch of limpers limped with and plus it plays well in multiway pots - you should be raising A10s and AJs as well here. I even raise Ajo and 910s here but I am a preflop maniac compared to some here. Note I am talking live games here - much easier to control the table.
The flop CR is just FPS and has no use since you were the aggressor preflop - just lead out. Look from the opponent's perspective - unless they think you have 1010 it doesn't make much sense for you to CR (not that you should with 1010 but that is what fish do so they may put you on that hand) and it just encourages them to call you down since they are now tied to the pot after they bet. You do need to vary your play some, but the vast majoroty of the time you should just lead out here.

growlers, the reason i don't like the raise preflop in hand 2 is that you are growing a pot oop to a point where people are gonna call you down with much less of a hand since the pot is now inflated. although i do see your point that you will often have the best hand here. i do agree that the flop play is spew. i think if you continue, lead out instead.

It's a paired rainbow suit flop. It is going to be very difficult for anyone to call you without a 10 or a 6 unless they are tricky players who raise, which is not these people.
Raising in the BB means AA KK to alot of low limit live players, you might even get someone to fold a hand like 910. There is just no reason for the CR - you have just as much fold equity with the lead out bet and it costs less.

The CR is not inherently wrong. You should be varying your play some OOP anyway, sometimes CRing with nothing, CR with good hands, leading out with nothing or a flopped straight, whatever. But on this particular flop usually just best to lead out.

And you guys worried about building big pots OOP - you don't continuation bet every pot. Some you give up on. I raise a ton out of the blinds and you really need to vary your play when the flop hits when you do this.

Hand 1: I don't hate the flop raise that much, although I probably need some good reads to try it. But I would never count a BD straight draw as an out here. You have the worst possible straight if it hits and you'd probably be lucky to split at that point. You're kind of screwed after the turn though.

Hand 2: Without reading all of the other comments yet because I'm impatient, maybe I'll edit after I do, I LOVE the way you played this hand. LOVE the preflop raise into a family pot, LOVE the flop c/r, but only if your original plan was check-fold if there is more action in front of you. Since you had the read that this guy is LAG and maybe a little nuts, you did get really lucky with a that as it gives you anywhere from 12 outs to 18 if he doesn't have an Ace, K, or Q. As it stood, you had 15 I think so you have to bet this turn card.

Then the ch/call on the river is fine, but you can probably bet the river too. After all, if the aggro player has an Ace there and especially if he has AT, he's raising the turn, right? Maybe your afraid of QT or AT, but most other hands that beat you would probably raise the turn.