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Postby redhouse » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:36 am

Just sat down. No reads.

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Limit: $3./$6
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with [Kh] [Ks]
2 folds, Hero raises, Button folds, SB 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: [5h] [8c] [5d] (9SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: [4c] (9BB, 3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: [7h] (12BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero ??
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Postby antneye » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:14 pm

This is probably a case where I check behind and then yell at myself for missing a value bet.

The more I look at this the more I think you need to bet here. I am expecting a couple of pocket pairs or maybe an AK hand.
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Postby Danhdan » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:58 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:34 pm

I can't see anyway you are not up against at least 2 other overpairs. TT or better. If SB flopped a boat, he certainly isn't checking that river so I gotta believe it's just that. 2 overpairs. Now how the hell do you figure out if one of them is Aces. Is SB really going for the c/r on the flop with QQ after BB capped preflop? You are probably the only one they are afraid of on that flop because you could have a medium pocket pair in a steal position.

I'm going to go out on a limb right here and say that in the long run there isn't going to be much of a difference between a check and a bet. I think you might AA here enough times for it to be a even with either decision. Also consider that you could be up against KK as well. Happened to me last night in a 6-handed game. Ran AA into AA in a similar type hand. 3rd player had 88 and said we were lucky because we were drawing dead.
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Postby geiststaat » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:13 pm

Bet. You may very well split, but I reallly don't think either of them has AA. If you do split with the other KK, however, I think the QQ or JJ is calling as well, so half a BB.
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Postby redhouse » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:40 pm

Thats what I figured too. Then this happened.

River: [7h] (12BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB calls, Hero??
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Postby Pok 7's » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:25 pm

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Postby Danhdan » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:48 pm

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Postby Pok 7's » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:56 pm

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Postby Danhdan » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:42 pm

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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Postby TightWad » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:46 am

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Postby Pok 7's » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:50 am

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Postby geiststaat » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:21 pm

BARF!

I'm dying to know what this fucker has just so I can try and figure out what the hell he's thinking. It's so odd I think I have to call.
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Postby antneye » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:26 pm

Call.

What else can we do. I cant fold. We have to be good at least some of the time right?
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Postby MecosKing » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:32 pm

I have to agree, the pots so ridonkolously huge that i gotta call here. Theres times for gettin off a hand, but the river bet in like an 15+BB pot when the boards not even all that scary isnt one of them.

For some reason, I have a suspicious feeling that redhouse 'expertly' folded his KK here and it turned out that he was goot...(or choppin)

Either that or he called and his kings were goot...Something other than he donked off the last bet and lost the pot, as we all think probly happened, cos that'd be standard more or less, and thus not justify all this hullabaloo...course im prob totally wrong...but meh, it wouldnt be the first time..
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