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Postby Nortonesque » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:22 pm

Button is 28/11/2.4 and (edit) UTG+1 is 35/13/0.8.

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [Tc], [Ts].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) [3c], [8h], [Jc] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) [4d] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, UTG+1 calls.

River: (9.25 BB) [Qc] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
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Postby TightWad » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:57 pm

Nawton,

If the flop action had narrowed it down to headsup, I wouldn't really mind the way you played the hand. But against a raise and UTG+1's cold-call, I'm inclined to think you're generally behind to at least one of the two opponents. Even if one of them's just drawing to a flush, they still have something like a 40% chance against you if they have an overcard to your tens as well. I just gotta believe that based on the action, you're significantly behind one of your two opponents most of the time, and a fold on the flop is in order.

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Postby MecosKing » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:47 pm

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Well, if it makes ya feel any better, i dont mind the way ya played it much. I dunno if id have bet at the button on the turn though, but you got a good result anyways. headsup against the UTG+1, I think you have pretty even chances- Sure he could have a jack, but the board is so damn drawy that he could have 910, Axc, XXc, a pair with a flush draw or a pair with a gutshot (not the J of course). IMHO, there are way way more hands than just a J that he could be calling with in that spot.

The bad news is that just about every legit draw got there on the river. The high straight, and the flushie + an overcard. However, the fact that he didnt bet the [Qc], which was the ultimate scare card, theres a decent chance that he had some crappie holding like [Ah] [8h]. Of course, he couldve also had somethin like [Qs] [9s] too, etc. etc.

Anyways if i had to bet id say you either were good, or got outdrawn on the river.
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Postby Nortonesque » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:03 pm

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Postby MecosKing » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:44 pm

WEll, I dunno. If he's real bad, then my guess is he either had a totally awful hand like 35s, or else he had a ridiculous monster that he played like a complete muppet, like 88. I still lean more towards he had a pretty crappie hand that nonetheless may have caught you on the river.
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Postby Nortonesque » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:37 pm

UTG+1 showed [Kh][Js].

TW is right -- I would have been much happier if UTG+1 had folded instead of calling 2 bets. But he is loose enough that he could have had something like KQ or an 8 here.
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