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Postby Marm » Fri May 11, 2007 10:51 pm

This one is much simpler. Different, yet similar, table. Mix of fishies and nutcases. And similar logic for my PF limp.

Basically my question is, is the turn slowplay the right move, or do we get aggressive now? What if a LP player raises this turn?

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with [6d], [6h].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, SLIPPY calls.

Flop: (6.60 SB) [4h], [Ah], [2s] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (3.30 BB) [6c] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, SB folds.

River: (7.30 BB) [Ad] (4 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 12.30 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 6d 6h (full house, sixes full of aces).
UTG+2 has 3c Ac (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.30 BB.
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Postby Danhdan » Fri May 11, 2007 11:34 pm

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Postby growlers » Sat May 12, 2007 4:05 am

Yeah, I agree this is fine play.
BB may likely be just firing out a turn bet with air trying to pick up the pot, and if you raise everyone may fold - it is a really small pot so no major harm in slowplaying to build a pot. You are actually hoping a LP player raises the turn so you can repop - that would be ideal - not something to worry about as you beat every plausible hand.

edit: I am ignoring preflop as limping with 66 is OK as long as it is a passive table preflop - I like this much better then the Kd10d limp as 66 is much easier to play OOP on the flop than K10 is. Do you see my reasoning on this?
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Postby antneye » Sat May 12, 2007 9:16 am

I agree that 66 is easier to play OOP than K 10 is, but I still think this is roughly a 50% foldinf hand for me........

something like 50 fold, 30 call, 20 raise.

I play at the same times online so I see many of the same folks and need to mix things up from time to time. If mixing it up is not a factor (as i doubt it is here) i fold.

Rest of hand was played fine.
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Postby Marm » Sat May 12, 2007 1:31 pm

Just to state this as a fact. I like playing more speculative hands pf and then getting the most value out of them post flop. But i have to start picking better spots to do so. As i said, trying to get the gamble out of me. Not that i'm ignoring your advice either, just i don't like to play that way. But i'm talking tiny differences anyways, and i do off to pick better spots. As to 66 v KT, Yeah, 66 is much easier to play post since it's either fit or fold. While KT You'll probably just end up chasing. @ typing this on my phone, sorry Ems the formatting, no enter key @
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Postby growlers » Sat May 12, 2007 1:59 pm

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Postby phytopath » Sat May 12, 2007 3:54 pm

This hand is fine, the Turn call is very good keeping people in the pot as is the river raise, just hoping that you can cap it against someone with an A.

PF is fine, limping is okay here since sets are really easy to play in any position and getting raised is no biggie.
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Postby TightWad » Sun May 13, 2007 5:45 am

Personally, I'd raise the turn...it seems I'm in the minority here (i.e. all alone), which probably means I'm wrong. I understand that the pot is pretty small, but why do we want to give flush-chasers proper odds to draw? Plus, at the table you describe, I think anyone with an ace is probably going to call 2 cold anyway. I guess calling might pick up some bad calls from gutshots or middle pairs that we'd lose by raising, but do those calls happen enough to make up for the extra bet we could've gotten out of people holding an ace or a flush draw? I'm inclined to think not, but I'm more than willing to be enlightened.

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