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Value Bet #2

Postby geiststaat » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:00 pm

Hand #2
2 limpers and I'm in the SB with TT, raise, BB and limpers all call.

Flop: [7c] [Qh] [Ts] ($16)
I bet, BB folds and the limpers call.

Turn: [5h] ($22)
I bet, limpers call.

River: [Jh] ($34)
Value bet?
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Postby growlers » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:21 am

No, two players left to act after you and an overcard fell that completed straight and a backdoor flush draw. It is unlikely anyone pays you off with a worse hand.
Additionally if the first limpers bets and the second limper calls you really can't overcall here so save your money. If the first limper checks and the second limper bets you will probably need to pay it off as you may have just induced a bluff.

Edit: after reading reply #2 I realize now that you flopped a set - I read it too quickly and thought we just had a middle pair on the flop.
I valuebet this river with middle set everytime.
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Postby MecosKing » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:53 am

Uhm. Im gonna go out onna limb here and make one of my patented reads (which are pretty much never right, like EVER) and say that this hand is a trick. This is an obvious valbet, but im shure some noob bungled his way into a hand that beat you on the riv. However, the straight draws that got there are not credible ones (gutshots, both of them) and the flushie draw is backdoor. I think that TP is still gonna pay you off, and theres a pretty good chance that someone even made 2p on that riv, which obviously means your gonna get paid off. Of course 2p iwll prob bet if checked to, and assuming you dont wanna CR, itll prol amount the same thing, unless you endup gettin to overcall against the middle guys 2p, and LP turns out to have a hand he woulndt have overcalled with.

In any case, in most situations you need to valbet this river. The straight draws that got there were gutterballs, and the flush came runnin. Fackit, this is a bet i say.
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Postby geiststaat » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:53 am

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Postby McNemo » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:25 pm

nope... geiststaat says further down about river action:

"I bet, first limper calls, second limper raises. I folded since I don't see anyway someone is raising this with two players still in the pot without the str8 or flush. Anyone calling this raise?"

So i answered his second question! (The first one is so obvious... bet!)
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