Hey guys...First post here so take it easy on me...

I play .50/1 and 1/2 Full Ring FLHE..

When playing multiple tables, do you notice that your win rate(BB/100) goes down the more tables you play, or is it just me that this happens to?

If I am right about my win rate going down, how much do you think is an exceptable drop in win rate for each extra table added. It would seem that even though my win rate goes down with each table extra I play, I am seeing and playing more hands at the reduced BB/100 so I am still winning more money by playing the extra tables.

Basically I am trying to figure out at what point my play deteriorates to the point that I should be playing less tables to maximize my overall win rate...

Make Sense???


Thanks,

Bigwheell

Welcome to BTP

Personally I find if I start adding too many tables I don't play as well. If you're really interested in adding additional tables I would suggest you add one at a time and get used to it. I stopped playing FR a while back and switched to shorthanded. Shorthanded about 3-4 tables is where I was relatively comfortable compared to the 7-8 I was playing at FR.

You probably have to find that thin line that balances your WR for you. As far as what thet particular number is it'll more than likely vary from player to player. Usually most people find they can usually play "x" amount of tables and keep relatively focused.

what u r seeing is inevitable. As you split your focus of course you bb/100 will deteriorate. The trick is to find the convergence point for your $/hr. It will peak at some point. It's all relative to what you feel comfortable with. I don't like to multi and will almost never have more than 2 tables going........thats me..........everyone is different.

I'll add a question: what is your motivation?

My motivation a year ago was to get better and improve - i found it hard to concentrate enough on more than two tables to really be able to "think" about the hands. I was just on autopilot if I was playing 4-5 tables.
I would have a decent winrate but it wasn't really improving my game any, so I dropped down to 2 tables of 2-4 and my winrate almost doubled, but I would still win more/hour 5 tabling so it depended if I was clearing a bonus or not what was better.

Now that I find online poker unbelievably boring and am only clearing bonuses, I'll 5 table on autopilot. Of course that might be why i quit and pulled all my money out after clearing my stars bonus........

I did a little project on this a while ago, WR vs Number of tables. If I can dig up the link, I'll post it. But basically, yes, your win rate in bb/100 goes down with each successive table, but your wr in bb/hr goes up. There does come a point where the addition of another table has a larger negative bb/100 affect than positive bb/hr. You need to try and find that point where you are maximizing your bb/hr, not neccesarily your bb/100. The following is a graph of this effect.



A interesting little corollary I found while working on this, is that due to a reduction in our Standard deviation, in particular our sd/hr, while possibly having an increase in our sd/100, our minimum required bankroll (RBR) goes down. The common accepted value of FRLH bankrolls is about 300 bb's for a safe BR. With each additonal table, our SD drops, reducing our potential to go broke. The reduction in RBR is so severe, that there comes a point where it drops lower than the minimum total normal (c 30 bets) buy-in for all the tables you have open. In my heyday, When I was 8 tabling, my RBR was around 160 bb's, which was the same risk of ruin % as 1 tabling with a RBR of 245. Even though the math dictated I only needed to have 160 bets to 8 table, I needed 240 bets to just physically sit at them. And just like the WR, there is an inflection point within this system, where our bb/hr drops, our sd/hr rises, and our RBR grows exponentially. *Just a caveat here, This last bit is based on the math figured I was aware of last year. I am now Delving into Chen's math book, and I will see if this theory holds water then, but so far my numbers have show it to be true.