I have lost more money with JJ than any other hand. I have a profit with TT even! From that alone I'm thinking being terribly unlucky is part of why I've lost so much with JJ. I tend to win small pots with them and lose huge ones with them.

I raise from EP with JJ. I get 4 callers (a nice loose-passive table).

Flop: 8 J 6 (rainbow)
I make a standard continuation bet and get raised. I call intending to get more money on the turn. Three people are still in the pot (me, the re-raiser, and a cold-caller). Perhaps I should have capped the flop. I simply was assuming no one would call an early position raise with 97, 75, and T9, so I thought I was in the clear.

Turn: 3
I check to the raiser knowing he'll raise again. He raises, cold-caller calls, I re-raise when it gets back to me, he raises again and I cap it when it gets back to me. The entire time we have someone call call calling. I thought he was just a calling station playing some crap hand like A6.

River: 7
The only hands that can beat me are T9 and 54. If someone called a raise pre- flop, 2 bets on the flop, and 4-bets on turn with these hands I'd be very surprised. I raise, get re-raised, raise again, and then its capped. The guy call call calling never raised, so I wasn't worried about him. I was assuming the one re-raising me also had a set, which I'd beat.

Turns out the guy re-raising me had AA (way overplaying it). And the one calling all these raises? He had 54 making the str8. So this caller with 54 called 2-bets on a gutshot draw on the flop, which then became an open-ended str8 draw on the turn.

The only thing I think I could have done better is check-called the river knowing if someone had T9 and stayed, they'd beat me. That would have saved me 2-3 bets.

Escape-plan-

I gotta tellya, i win more with TT than JJ also- and i know alot of other people that are the same way. The reason for this, so far as i can tell, is that JJ is the worst of the premium hands, and TT is the best of the middle hands- and too often, people stubbornly call down with JJ on an overcard board, whereas they are more likely to let go of a TT.

Now obviously in the case of this hand, when you flop top set with a JJ, your not supposed to lose. Youd have lost this hand if you had AA and flopped an A, so you shouldnt really chalk this hand up as just one more in your growing list of reasons why JJ is a big ol steaming shitpile of a hand.

PT helped me ALOT with certain trouble hands- JJ was one of them, QK was one, AT was one- Just goto all your JJ hands and relpay em all, and look at why and how you lose, and try to adjust your play. Lots of people say to 'play JJ like 99' - i think thats total plucking bullshift though, because JJ is a far superior hand to 99- JJ is premium, 99 is iffy at best.

Point being that if you are a long term loser with jacks, then chances are that mistakes are to blame. Are you calling too much when your beat? Are you not pushing hard enough when your ahead, and allowing yourself to get drawn out on? Are you limping after a couple of other PF limpers, i,.e. playing them like 99? Or, does God hate you and decided that you are destined to be forever unlucky with JJ as I am with KQ, my biggest loser over 50k+ hands? PTs got the answers...thats what its there for.

GL out there-im gonna be fightin the war from the sidelines for awhile.

TT--win 37.9%--bb/hand .41--vpip 95.3%--pfr 61.2%--lwpc 6.0%--wtsd 43.4%--
w$sd 52.8%

JJ--win 43.8%--bb/hand .39--vpip 97.8%--pfr 53.1%--lwpc 12.0%--wtsd 43.9%--
w$sd 54.8%

Those are my numbers for the last 50k hands.

JJ I basically play fairly strong untill an over card hits the board then I run away screaming like a little girl.

These are my ABC rules for JJ
Preflop: Play from any position. If its not raised then make it 2 bets. If already 2 then call. Fold if its 3 bet before it gets to you.

Flop: If not heads up and any over card hits the board, then I am done with the hand. If board is all smaller than J then play it hard. Yes I'll cap it. If heads up I pretty much ignore one overcard on the flop. But 2 over cards HU and im done.

Turn: I play the same way as the flop except I dont cap unless ive hit a set.

River: Check and call even to one over card. I only raise if ive hit the set or a straight or maybe the flush depending on whos in the hand.

This maybe not the best way to play em but this is my basic strategy and they are winners for me.