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Your opinion needed: Playing nuts w/no caps

Postby CFlannagan » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:58 am

Here's something I've been meaning to ask the forum about - I have began playing at Cryptologic sites just recently and am faced with a new decision on occasions: how to handle the fact that there is no capping on turn/river when I have the nuts.

Take this first example:

Cryptologic
Limit holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
8 players


Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with [Qd] [Jh]
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: [8h] [6c] [9c] (9.6SB, 4 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: [Ts] (5.8BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+1 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+1 re-raises, Hero calls.

River: [2s] (17.8BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+1 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+1 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+1 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+1 re-raises, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 39.8BB
UTG+1 shows 7c Js
Hero shows Qd Jh


I decided to stop this - because I figured he must have QJ as well and to my surprise, he didn't. I was kicking myself for not raising him for the rest of his stack!

The rake for the above hand was $0.95.



Cryptologic
Limit holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
10 players


Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with [Qd] [Td]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: [2h] [Js] [Th] (5SB, 5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: [Qs] (4BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, CO folds, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero calls.

River: [Qc] (12BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 re-raises, Hero re-raises, UTG+2 calls all-in $0.25.
Uncalled bets: 0.5BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 53BB
Hero shows Qd Td
UTG+2 shows Qh Tc

This time, not wanting a repeat of the 1st situation, I decided to raise the villian for all of his stack. Turns out he had the same hand.. so we split the pot. The rake was $1.30.

Each of us actually lost 15 cents.

WWYHD? (What would you have done?) Discuss away! :)
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Postby redhouse » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:16 am

All in every time.

Edit: With the stone colds. Didnt notice the second hand wasnt.
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Postby The Golden 1 » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:24 am

Hand 1 I will not stop, you have the almighty nuts and the times you lose 1 BB to the rake will be made up by the times you have them beat as seen above.

Hand 2 is a little different, you do not have the nuts you have the second nuts. As far as I'm concerned I'll probably 7 bet it, but after that I'm calling. If you had QJ then play as you should have the first hand.
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Postby CFlannagan » Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:03 am

Whoa, didn't notice the J before in 2nd hand.. I doubt the other person did either...

Now I feel relieved!
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