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67s hand - whats your play

Postby Tokenizer » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:28 pm

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)

SB ($18.25)
BB ($11.95)
UTG ($15)
Hero ($61.15)
MP1 ($47.15)
MP2 ($18.30)
MP3 (villan)/ ($29.50)
CO ($52.35)
Button ($48.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [6c], [7c].
1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1, MP3 (villan)/ calls $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4.25) [Tc], [8d], [4c] (4 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.5, MP2 calls $2.50, villan raises to $16

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Postby Kalle » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:28 am

When I first saw this hand I thought it was an easy all in. I would still go all in but now I think it's close. You dont have any folding equity, but are only a big dog if someone has a bigger flush draw.

Against a set you will win 40% of the time. Against two pair its 48%. Against AT it's 55%. [Ac][8c] and the chance of winning is only 23%.
But there is already some money in the pot. You risk $26 to win $35.25 (there is rake). If you win more than 42% of the time the play is +EV. I think you win more than that

If MP2 has a bigger flush draw and decides he wants to gamble you are in bad shape. If he has a made hand and wants to come along it's good.

With a big draw you want to be the one who goes all in. Unfortunately villain potcommited himself and you dont have any folding equity.

All in all: to go all in is high variance but still slightly EV.
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Postby Aisthesis » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:09 am

Well, Kalle's certainly right regarding the odds.

The rather strange thing is villain's off-the-chart bet (by the way, I think you should have raised harder on the flop). The good thing is, however, that he's somewhat short-stacked. It's kind of a strange bet on his part for a set, but AcXc doesn't seem completely out of the question.

Does anyone like flat calling in the hope that someone else will come along for the ride? I think I'd either go with that or pushing, but the size of villain's bet has me a bit confused here. If someone else comes along, I'm rather hoping you might get some kind of side pot going.
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Postby Jarren » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:04 am

I am super confused by the size of that bet. to me that reeks of two pair, but on that board I don't see how unless he called the min raise with T 8, or he has a set and is scared of all the draws.

I think I push it in here. You have just about ever draw in the book.
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Postby Stoneburg » Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:48 am

Push push push!!

You should NOT call to let someone in. The only person that would stay would be a better flush draw, and you want him OUT.
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Postby Tokenizer » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:33 am

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Postby Tokenizer » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:24 am

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If you had the set?

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Postby Tokenizer » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:13 am

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