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Postby excession » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:07 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:29 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Stoneburg » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:00 pm

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:08 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby hard2tel » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:05 pm

"But meh, what I lack for in talent and intelligence I make up for in lack of ambition." -- Oatmealforxmas

- make more than xaston and roy
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Postby Triple B » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:33 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:55 pm

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Postby Triple B » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:00 pm

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Postby shamdonk » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:00 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


(9:00:09 PM) GodlikeRoy: i think you could prolly post total shit for the next 2 years aaaaand like 192 days and you'll still be considered 'posting good' cause of your threads that'll never be seen thread
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Postby excession » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:20 pm

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Postby Aisthesis » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:41 am

Trying to take some of Stone's comments one at a time.

Am I making money on limps? Don't know, but I'm at 16 ptbb/100 so far, despite losing one full stack getting it all in with nut straight on turn and getting quadded on river.

As to the overall stat of 36/16: at some tables I'm playing like 18/18 more or less and at others maybe upper 30s. Anyhow, the 36 part has gone down.

With the A6o, I really am starting to feel MUCH more confident with hands like that 6max, although I hate them FR. I actually feel a bit wt because I'll generally fold it to a raise, but I'll raise it OTB pretty much every time. I think folding it is really only good if you get into a game where you're almost going to have to play for stack when you hit your A. But seriously, I just had a great pot vs. a bluffer that I picked off with A4. I think a lot of it is figuring out whether your opponent is attempting to buy or value-betting.

Anyhow, your first post sounds to me tighter than necessary for 6max (probably leaving some good money at the table, too, although no doubt decreasing variance a bit)--and trust me, I'm perhaps the biggest diehard advocate of tight for FR that there is!

I should note that my current trend is tightening up a bit from the 36 (I'm down to 33 now and probably running more like 26 or so usually since the old 36 part of the database is still counted) and limping less. But I still think there can be good reasons to limp both weakish hands and monsters.
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Postby Aisthesis » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:46 am

I think it was bk who recommended something like 25/18 as optimal, and that sounds about right--but imo there are tables where 36/16 is quite reasonable and tables where 18/16 is more like it. I think the trick is adjusting your play so as to play or not play the more marginal candidates (AX, offsuit connectors, Q8s, etc.) and also limping anywhere from fairly often to almost never depending on the game.

And back to Stone: Surely you jest about not playing KJo to a raise 6max. I don't even think twice about playing to a raise or raising myself on KTo unless raiser seems just horribly nitty.
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