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PT and NL ring experts, lend me your ears. (Kind-o-long)

Postby GlassJoe » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:48 am

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Postby JJSCOTT2 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:05 pm

I think I remember Ice telling me a couple days ago that he can do $55/hr multi-tabling 1/2 so all in all it seems possible, but it's hard to really say, just keep playing and see where you stand at around 15k. You can't really just sit back and brace yourself for a bad run of cards and beats because as soon as you get yourself in the mind frame that this set is gonna go down, or this guy is gonna catch his straight, you will throw yourself off your game.
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Postby GlassJoe » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:30 pm

Thanks for the reply. But aren't the PT numbers saying that I'm making $52/hr on each table, or does PT take into account how many tables you're playing at a time? I think $20+/hr is reasonable, and I plan to let variance take care of itself. I've had some rough patches early on at 200NL (all in with AA and TT calling me with an 8-high board and spiking a Ten seems to ring a bell....lost $200, should have won $550 or so since there was a moron in there with a backdoor flush and backdoor straight draw).

Anyway, thanks again for the reply, but I'm wondering if my PT numbers look too lose, tight, passive, aggressive, et cetera.
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Postby JJSCOTT2 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:43 pm

Well I'm no expert at PT numbers, and especially not 6-max, but the only thing I can really see is that you should maybe be going to showdown a little less and winning at showdown a little more. There are a wide variety of VP$IP and PFR that you can play and win with depending on your style so it's really hard to judge play based on those numbers.
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Postby briachek » Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:38 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:40 pm

PT calculates your hourly win rate as your ACTUAL win rate not per table. So your actual win rate is ~$50/hr, which IS sustaianable if youre playing 3-4 tables and youre pretty good. Well, maybe you need to be better than pretty good.

I dont play 6 max, but I think a good player can win a little more there
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Postby Mad Genius » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:09 pm

I think you need to be MUCH more aggressive on the flop. I'm a 5.09 on the flop, which may be a little high, but I think it's hard to be a consistent winner playing passively.
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:28 pm

Im also over 5 on the flop.
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Postby GlassJoe » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:06 pm

Thanks so much for the feedback, guys. So upping aggression on the flop seems to be at least one thing to work on. Do you guys do a lot of min raising, or is it more of the 3x or 4x variety? I don't min raise very much unless I'm trying to enduce the guy to play back at me, and if he's aggressive enough, not even then. So, more aggressive on the flop and perhaps see a few less showdowns. Thanks .

How about the PFR (8%) and VP$IP (27%). Those seem to be fairly important numbers, though how you play post flop will affect that greatly. I'd rather lean toward TA than LA preflop because while I like seeing flops, I will get outplayed post-flop from time to time (though those times are getting fewer and further between ;) ).

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