Double stacked flush on paired board

[T-Rod]

[GodlikeRoy]

Ice,

I saw two 400 BB pots yesterday. One I won when I flopped 78 on a 456 board in a raised pot and bet/3bet the flop, then bet a 9 on the turn and my opponent shoved with 79.

The other was when I was at the table with a friend and he 3bet AQ of hearts OOP and his opponent called. The flop was K62 or something really dry IIRC and he bet 2/3 pot, his opponent called. The turn was a J of hearts putting 2 of them out there and again he bet 2/3 pot and his opponent called. The river I *think* was the Th but it could've been a less-scary heart, either way, he shoved and his opponent called with AK.

If you were both 400 BB deep then the hand changes a little. I think I would consider calling and either calling his river bet or, more likely, do something like minraise and fold to a raise on the river. If I were 400 BB deep with someone though I would certainly have at least a few much more specific reads since I imagine we'd have been at the table for quite a while together.

I like shoving on the turn more than calling and getting it on on the river because any K, T, 2 or spade will either give you the 2nd best hand or more likely make your opponent afraid to put his whole stack i n with a lower flush. Get it in now.

Trod,

I think you generalise players too much and are making a mistake in doing so and this is costing you value/making you play further away from perfect when you do play.

I think my analysis is fine for 2/4 NL on FTP or 0.01/0.02 NL on Stars or 10/25 at the Bellagio. and feel most solid, thinking players who do play the 100 NL cake game (lol what are there like 2 of them?) would also agree with me. Those are the players who'll be at 5/10 in a while and not still grinding the same stakes for 2 years.

[Semillon]

[iceman5]

[iceman5]

No comments on my seemingly idiotic $5 bet into the $27 pot on the turn to make myself look like some kind of donk and get him to raise with whatever he had to take the hand away from me? I think this was one of my best plays in a long time.

What do you do there if you are the preflop raiser and have
[Qh]
[Ah]
[Tc]
[Ts]

or any number of other hands? What if you have nothing at all like [9h]? You going to let me steal a $27 pot for $5? I dont think so. Youre going to raise if you have any cajones at all.

[iceman5]

[GodlikeRoy]

Ice,

I dunno what to say:

[iceman5]

[The Golden 1]

Dunno what type of poker you play Ice but the one I do doesn't make it possible for you to have quads and roy to have tens full of queens.

[T-Rod]

[DoctorHandles]

Ice you're really kidding yourself here.

You had the one hand combination which is going to get to stack his nut flush. And I'm sure you'd still think donking into him on the turn was brilliant if he raised your lead with [8s] then said "Weak lead + 3-bet is always a monster, folding to your nut flush."

I 100% agree with Roy.

Ice you must either run absolutely ridiculously hot over a long period of time or just post way more hands where you're getting to cooler people than anyone else.

[DoctorHandles]

[iceman5]

[DoctorHandles]

[iceman5]