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Flush vs Set vs Set......nasty hand

Postby Alchemist » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:26 pm

Is there any possibility of me getting away from this (apart from folding PF)?
UTG is fishy and raises down to 88 in EP, reasonably good, but like me makes mistakes.
Button is sLAG but not much other info.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (8 handed)

CO ($10)
Button ($23)
SB ($25.75)
BB ($32.15)
UTG ($15.75)
UTG+1 ($9.75)
MP1 ($25.75)
Hero ($20.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [7s], [7h]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG raises to $1.1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.10, 1 fold, Button calls $1.10, 2 folds.

Flop: ($3.90) [Jc], [7c], [4h] (3 players)
UTG bets $1.75, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $5, UTG goes all-in for $14.65, Hero calls $9.65, Button calls $9.65.

Turn: ($45.50) [Ac] (3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7.25 (All-In), Hero calls $4.45 (All-In).

River: ($54) [2c] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $54
Main Pot: $45.50, between Button and Hero and UTG. > Pot won by Button ($45.50).
Pot 2: $8.50, between Button and Hero.

Results in white below:
Button has 8c 9c (flush, ace high).
UTG has Jh Jd (three of a kind, jacks).
Hero has 7s 7h (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: Button wins $54.


OK set over set is supposed to be a stackbuster, but can I put UTG on top set with his re-raise on the flop? (or could this easily mean QQ-AA)
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:10 pm

Dead in the water slick... I wouldn't have folded PF... He had 10x the raise, so it wasn't a bad chase...

I MAY have gone allin on the flop, just to get it heads up... Other than that, nothin you can do...
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Postby poker2006 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:15 pm

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Postby MVPSPORTS » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:21 pm

Poker... I don't understand that... Wouldn't you want to push while you're still ahead with your trips, and not wait until someone catches their flush so you can fold... That sounds like you're betting and waiting for a reason to fold... If someone's gonna hit a flush against me, it's gonna cost them dearly...
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Postby briachek » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:31 pm

I reraise to about $7 to try to discourage flush draws from calling. Unfortunately, I don't think that guy was going anywhere and neither was the JJ guy so this is easily a stack buster.
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Postby poker2006 » Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:39 pm

MVP, this is something I learned on this forum and I'm not 100% sure it's the correct play.

When you have a set and you know you're up against a flush draw, with deep stacks, I thought it's to your advantage to try to get all in on the turn, when they only have a 1:4 chance to hit, rather than on the flop when they have 1:2 odds to the flush. If you don't think you can do it on the turn, of course you accept the 1:2 odds and do it on the flop.

I don't remember exactly the posts on this, maybe it was referring mostly to high stakes NL.
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Postby Rabbi_Chips » Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:54 pm

If you have top set (just to make it clear that you are ahead) against a flush draw then going all-in on the flop and him calling would be a great thing. If he folds-also great, you have protected your hand. The only thing in the middle is if you are trying to juice him for more money. But beware of this b/c if he hits and then you can’t get away it means you were giving him good implied odds.

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