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Postby GodnataS » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:10 am

Been reading the forums for a few weeks now, GReat stuff!, But a question on this hand.

Recent hand from $50 NL ring game Party Poker


***** Hand History for Game 2409571381 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 23, 06:50:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 37195 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: xLonChji ( $35.34 )
Seat 2:HERO ( $95.48 )
Seat 3: AmanMahal ( $55.85 )
Seat 5: Sasuke84 ( $59.05 )
Seat 6: nanc427 ( $51.45 )
Seat 8: JJalltheway1 ( $180.49 )
Seat 10: tiru123 ( $48.75 )
Seat 9: IndianaSlim ( $48 )
Seat 4: MTACO004 ( $22.40 )
Seat 7: yomjl221 ( $50 )
xLonChji posts small blind [$0.25].
HERO posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2h Kd ]
AmanMahal folds.
MTACO004 calls [$0.50].
Sasuke84 calls [$0.50].
nanc427 calls [$0.50].
JJalltheway1 did not respond in time.
JJalltheway1 folds.
IndianaSlim folds.
tiru123 folds.
xLonChji calls [$0.25].
HERO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 2c, Kc ]
xLonChji checks.
HERO checks.
MTACO004 checks.
Sasuke84 checks.
nanc427 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
xLonChji checks.
HERO bets [$2].
MTACO004 calls [$2].
Sasuke84 folds.
nanc427 calls [$2].
xLonChji folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
HERO bets [$6].
MTACO004 is all-In.
nanc427 calls [$19.90].
HERO calls [$13.90].
HERO shows [ 2h, Kd ] a full house, Kings full of twos.
MTACO004t show [ 2d, 2s ] a full house, Twos full of kings.
nanc427 show [ 7s, Ks ] three of a kind, kings.
HERO wins $65.20 from the main pot with a full house, Kings full of twos.


Even though I won the pot, I am wondering if it was right to just call the two all ins, I was kinda worried about maybe a KT.

With the 2 all ins was it right to just call, Should I have re-raised to try to get more money out of nanc427, or would anyone even folded after the 2 all ins?
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Postby Kalle » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:08 am

Hi. Welcome to the forum.

You played it well but you should have raised the river. You cant fold when only K3 and KT beats you. It doesnt look like nanc427 has you beat (he didnt raise). Just raise the river (all in) and hope he calls with a worse hand. If one of them has you beat it's just bad luck.

Oh, and next time you post, use the hand converter (if it works) and dont post the results. That will give you better responses.
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Postby Smokin'Al » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:54 pm

Anyone bet the flop here? Say 1/2 pot or so.

I'm struggling to think of any likely scenarios in which someone will make a big hand on the turn (and wouldn't call a bet on the flop).

So you might as well start getting money in the middle in case someone wants to play.

Or is this stupidly results-oriented?
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:44 pm

Kind of funny with 3 people slowplaying :lol:
When nanc427 only *calls* on the river you can probably safely assume you have him/her beat and you should raise all-in (hey, if he/she called this much...) to get maximum value. Hands that you beat are plentiful.. hands that beat you are rare (two, to be precise).
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Postby briachek » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:01 pm

i agree with stoneburg. The guy calling the all in will not have the nuts because he wouldn't be just calling so you should raise all in just in case the short stack has KT and you can win a sidepot from the other guy. If you lose all your money to KT or K3, so be it but I only see you losing the main pot at worst and winning at least the side pot. Scared poker leaves too much money on the table.
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