No real read on Villan as he just sat down at the table. Villan is middle position I am Button. He has a little over $24 I have him covered.

PP NL$25
Couple of Callers and then Villan min Raises it. I call with . 5 other callers.

Pot = $3.50
Flop

UTG leads out for $1. 1 Caller and then Villan raises to $6. Couple of folds action on me. Whats your play?

-twelver

Great question and I know how I'd play it.

I FOLD it... big time. My thoughts are you only have TPTK and no reads. Without a big pfr, you can assume you are not against a big pocket pair but rather some kind of drawing hand. There are two draws out there (flush and str8) and I see lots of people play J10. The size of the bet is what gets me here and the fact someone acts behind you. What if he called? Also, call that bet and be ready to play for a bunch with just TPTK.

All that being said, I'm curious how others would play it.

TR

please fold instantly. way too much action for AJ. betting still has to get back to the opener and caller. and bottom line is villian says he has a real hand...you can't beat much here and even if you are good, like half the deck is a scare card. plus, AJ sucks, don't fight your battles w/ it.

I don't know if I agree with you all that this is a automatic fold. Granted fold is probably the correct play, but the only hands I think that are beating me right now are JT or 22. AK, AQ, TT, or JJ would have most likely reraised preflop, if held by one of the callers, or rasie more if held by the villan. Granted there are a lot of drawing hands out there, but I am ahead of these drawing hands, so hypothetically I would want them to call and stay along for the ride. I am interested to hear others thoughts on the hand before I post results.

-twelver

I hate playing behind a min raise, especially one from someone new to the table. In this example, it could be anything from JTs to JQ to AA to a flopped set to AK clubs.

In your position PF, I'm probably going to either fold or raise him the size of the pot. It's going to come down to that decision anyway, especially with a weak holding like AJo. If an Ace falls, you're in the same predicament, maybe worse - did he have AK? AQ? AA? A set?

Inquiring about his hand pre-flop with a large raise will give you the information you need to play the hand on later streets. It will also clear out those other 5 callers, or at least narrow the field down to those with legitimate hands. One of them will probably surprise you by calling (damn slowplayers).

Anyway, now that you're in this position, fold. As others have mentioned, TPTK is pretty weak given that board and that action.

Good points Big Phish.

I contrary to all of your opinions, called the raise. Which I agree was not the right play.

Everyone else folded so we were heads up.

Pot = $17.50

Turn
Villan bets $5
Hero ??

villain played the hand like either a set that's scared of the flopped clubs and wants to take it down now, or a big draw....and i think you can bet on it being a flush draw, not a straight draw. he played it like i'd have played it if i had the flush draw + either a gutshot or OESD or overcards. so my guess is that the same card that makes your two pair also made his flush.


also.....why lead only $1 w/ TPTK? that's 1/3 of the pot.....with TPTK i want to take it down as soon as is feasible, or, if i'm beat, find that immediately by not making a bet that screams out "raise me."


then again....party $25NL. anything is possible.

jon

I think he has KK with the K of clubs and you just sucked out on him.

His flop raise screams "Protect my hand".

I would fold on the flop btw, but since we're here, I would push after his turn bet.

I reraised all in trying to represent the flush. He called.

The River was the .

So I had top 2 pair. Anyone guess what he had. He mucked !

Just another example of people at Party.

Granted I should have not been in the hand after the flop, but with so many people like this at these low tables, sometimes it pays off.

-twelver

This again depends on what that player is like. There are players that I will play TPTK against because it's good 80% of the time, others that I will not call their raise with TPTK.

Fold preflop.

You know all the limpers are going to call so now you have AJ in a bloated pot which is going to cost you alot of money if you hit top pair and someone else hits the flop harder which is very likely to happen with that many limpers.

Or reraise to isolate. Calling is BAD. (unless its suited)