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Live NL300 1/2 Hand...Let me know what you think

Postby Danhdan » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:39 am

Played in Reno this week on a spur of the moment trip. Playing in a game, has only about $220 on the table(because keeping a little in my wallet for food and gas was important at this point).

One shortstack limper to Villain in MP. He has me covered. He beat me for my stack in the first pot I played that night, and hasn't looked back...he's up to $1K in front of him. Villain raises to $22.

I can tell you alot about the villain. He hasn't raised with AK, AQ, or SC's, mainly PP's 55+, so he's raised few times. He limps with alot of suited cards, connectors, other junk. He doesn't raise large without a decent PP. He raised $18 with KKx2, AA earlier. He thinks I am out to get him because I lost that first pot to him, and we've tangle a couple times after(him getting the better of me almost every time). He's pretty loose, and won't give up a big hand, is a payoff wizard.

I look down and see QQ in the SB. I decide to just call, to see if I can figure out exactly what he has before I commit my chips(hoping this is a spot I can get them all in against him). I also felt he might fold a lessor hand in this spot to my reraise(my image is TAG). The limper folds. The flop comes 722 w/ two hearts. I check and he bets $10. I have seen his earlier play, and this bet looks like he's trying to tempt me to make a move at the pot. At this point though, I think I have him beat, and he has pretty much no draw except maybe runrun hearts, which I don't have. I decide to call his bet. The turn is another deuce. I check again, and he fires $10 again. At this point I am pretty sure of three things: 1) he will call a push by me, and 2) he doesn't know what I have 3) he has 88-JJ most of the time here and to a lesser extent AA-KK, AK. I decided to call again, and push the river on a safe card.

Any flaws in my logic or play up to this point? Should I have gotten the money in earlier against him?
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:45 am

Im confused. You say theres a shortstack limper than has you covered and then say he has over $1K.

Did the guy with $1K raise after another guy who is shortstack limped?

Either way, it doesnt matter. I dont like your line at all. How do you expect to get your $220 all in if you keep calling $10 bets?

Rasie somewhere and get your money in.
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:18 pm

The 1k stack raised OVER the short limper...the 1k stack had hero covered, the short stack folded after hero called.

I think you should just raise the turn. WTF is a "safe" river that is going to make the safest board in ALL OF POKER any safer?! Just get it in NOW, if you're planning on getting it in on the river anyway.
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Postby shamdonk » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:26 pm

Flaws in logic
edit: I don't want to sound like a prick, THANKS TROD!

#1.He thinks I am out to get him because I lost that first pot to him, and we've tangle a couple times after(him getting the better of me almost every time). He's pretty loose, and won't give up a big hand, is a payoff wizard.

So we...
look down and see QQ in the SB. I decide to just call

#2The flop comes 722 w/ two hearts. I check and he bets $10. I have seen his earlier play, and this bet looks like he's trying to tempt me to make a move at the pot. At this point though, I think I have him beat

So we....
decide to call his bet.

Shovel money into the pot PF and get it in on the flop. If someone is going to look you up because you have been getting the better of them, calling ain't the solution.
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Postby Danhdan » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:27 pm

Yeah, I guess I could have shoveled money in at any time here and gotten called. I was about 98% sure he would call any shove at any time...so I decided to wait until the river.

I was thinking there might be some advantages to waiting until the river against this particular opponent because of his lack of ability to lay a hand down against me. I also think I was a little gunshy because this villain had beaten me in virtually every hand we've tangle, and I wanted to be positive I was beating him before I got my money in, hence waiting for the river.

The rest is just a bad beat story...a Jack hit the river and his whole demeanor changed. The cat that ate the canary seems like the best way to describe his smile after that card. After I checked again to him on the river, he looked down at his chips, for about ten seconds, and bet only $20. I just reluctantly called again(5-1 obviously), and he showed JJ of course. He then said 1)if I had pushed at any time he would have called, and 2) he had no idea what I had. At least I had a decent read on him.

I think getting in the money on the flop/turn against pretty much anyone here is the best route to go.

Thanks for the responses.
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