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NL10 Flopped Set vs. Bad River

Postby bdon22 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:31 pm

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

BB ($7.90)
UTG ($4.85)
MP ($21.30)
CO ($2.60)
Button ($5.95)
Hero ($16.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [3h], [3d]. CO posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.4, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1) [Qh], [3s], [2s] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($2) [9h] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.6, Hero raises to $4.2, MP calls $2.60.

River: ($10.40) [Ts] (2 players)
Hero bets $6, MP raises to $16.2

I have $5.05 remaining in my stack. Hero ??
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Postby Semillon » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:14 pm

Raise more on the turn, $8 or so then you can push any river.
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Postby Zuccala » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:49 pm

Lead the flop. I like ti ALWAYS lead my set into the PFR. If not here at least C/R him on the flop and lead the turn. What happens if he has a hand like [As][Qs]..[As][Ks]...
or even [As][Js] he could just check thru and take a free turn and beat you for free. Since you are so passive on the flop the pot is small on the turn. If you played the flop aggressivley you would be able to make a much bigger C/R there on the turn and he may drop or on the flop.
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Postby JimmyJet » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:11 am

I think you screwed this up pretty badly.

As Zuccala says, lead into the PF raiser when you flop a set. This flop hits all kinds of hands that will raise PF, AQ, QJ, KQ, QT plus overpairs and a whole bunch of suited cards. You made this call PF to try and flop a set. You flopped a set but on a fairly dangerous board. I could advocate a check call on a dry flop, this isn't though. You're OOP and giving a potential flush draw a free card to hit. Bad number 1.

Bad number 2, as Sem pointed out is not betting more on the turn. The check again, is fairly horrible as it stinks of a set/monster but you have induced a bet from your opponent, now it's time to spring the trap and get some proper money in there, maybe even pushing all in.

Because of your clever/trappy/checky play in this hand you now have landed yourself in a horrible spot as the river completes a flush, JT also just got there.

As played, I call the river, getting the odds you are getting, and just hope he has AQ, QT, QJ, or KQ. I get the feeling he hasn't though but you can't fold this now.

Essentially your clever/trappy play on a drawy board has gotten you into a horrible spot and you prolly can't get away from it. I used to do this all the time. Then I learned to lead into the PF raiser with a flopped set (something a handful of players at lower limits seem to actually do) and be uber aggressive with my strong hands.

At these levels, you will stack someone holding QJ/KQ/AQ on this flop. So don't try to trap and certainly don't do it on this kind of a board.

When you make your hands, push them hard, don't be worried about people folding to your bets. If they have nothing, they are folding to most bets anyway. If they have TP they are almost certainly stacking off. ABC poker. Push your good hands aggressively and make sure your get paid in situations like this, not have to make horrible decisions on the river.

Just MO, I'm sure others have theirs but I hope it helps.
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Postby geiststaat » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:13 am

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Postby JimmyJet » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:24 am

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Postby Rhound50 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:48 am

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Postby bdon22 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:04 am

Villian had [Ks][6s].

But I agree 100% with you.

Basically, I should have led into the raiser to get the pot larger, sooner especially on a dangerous board like that with two high suited cards.

As played though I should have gotten more money in on the turn.
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Postby geiststaat » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:44 pm

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