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Postby DoctorHandles » Mon May 12, 2008 8:12 pm

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby charlie sheepskins » Mon May 12, 2008 8:28 pm

I think the main reason we cant fold is because the heart that hit was the Ah. I mean...we're definitely beat here sometimes, but I dont think Im ever folding to this bet, however, I agree w/ xaston and would check/call the river.

(wouldnt be very surprised to see him flip 22/JJ/AA/air)
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Postby Spank_her_Pair » Tue May 13, 2008 6:25 am

you are getting 3.3-1 on a river call. Therefore you need the best hand >23% of the time to make a call profitable. I think its close. Not betting this river would be missing out on value IMO. Now hypothetically, if we we're to be retards and bet this river with KJ and got CR'd I think calling with KJ and with 33 are almost the same thing. All we usually beat is air.

One more point, when people check-call two streets it means they have to have some kind of hand. Either a solid draw or a decent made hand. Therefore, the only way villain is bluffing in this spot is if he is turning a made hand into a bluff because every draw got there.
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Postby RedBarracuda » Tue May 13, 2008 9:56 am

i think i should start posting my hands as polls ..

i am still unclear if this is a fold or a call but am leaning toward the "if hero bets the river, hero calls a shove"..

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Postby NorthView » Tue May 13, 2008 11:29 am

I didn't post because I was very unsure, and I still think it's very close either way.

Got any easier ones?
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Postby gsdavid » Tue May 13, 2008 8:57 pm

UGH, misread the board at first...Yeah river bet is close...dependent on image. Since you are like 16/14 I think he folds all all Jx besides AJs(I'm not sure he flatcalls AJo vs you pf).
So his calling range should be for most part AJs(3 combos) vs some 10-14 FD combos. I would need a read to bet this river. Like..how often and if he ever plays his draws aggro..how often does he bet out this river with a flush etc...withouth that I think you cant bet the river given your stats(dun no your immage)
I think that river is a solid fold. He must be insane to CRAI you here as bluff. Do you bluff often? do you VB AJ here? Your range is so strong here that me must be quite crazy to bluff you
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Postby RedBarracuda » Wed May 14, 2008 6:34 am

i am the villain with AJs...


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Postby Triple B » Wed May 14, 2008 9:09 am

Villain: Why?
Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
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Postby RedBarracuda » Wed May 14, 2008 9:58 am

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Postby Jossnaz » Wed May 14, 2008 2:47 pm

i think villain is rarely betting there with smth which is beat by 2 pairs aside from a bluff and i think we can agree villain will sometimes fold the winner there.
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