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Pocket KKs killing me

Postby cat923 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:49 pm

In the last hour I have had pocket KK 6 times and QQ twice. I raised preflop heavily and got callers. On the first five KK flops it has come Axx. On the first QQ flop AKx.

I lost 6 of these "premium" hands after betting the preflop heavily.

This may be bad luck, but for the past three days I have gotten killed on pocket KKs which is ordinarily my best hand outperforming AA.

Comments or suggestions please.

Thanks,

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Postby MVPSPORTS » Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:59 pm

What happened when you bet out the flop w/ KK on the A board...? Did you lose ALL of them? Could you chase people, representing an Ace...

I was just rereading "Harrington on Holdem", and it had some advice that might be of help... If you're a tight player, they certainly don't see you that way, since you've been raising so much... Have you showed down all of those hands? If not, they think you're a maniac w/ all those PF raises, and are challenging w/ lower cards... Not sure if that made any sense...

Have you tried limping UTG w/ KK, trying to checkraise someone into getting more money in PF...?

Just a few thoughts...
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Postby Gregor » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:17 am

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Postby cat923 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:27 pm

The jinx continues. I have had pocket KKs four more times. I have limped. A has shown on the flop and I have lost to all of them.

I guess I should just fold them till the first of May to rid my self of the jinx.

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Re: Pocket KKs killing me

Postby rdale » Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:59 am

A week ago they were running into AA so frequently that I seriously slowed down with them, this week they are fine. I mean twice in a game that was heads up we showed down KK and AA, and I saw it twice more when the game was full.

Don't let it get you all screwy, just bet them while they are the best make a continuation bet at the flop when heads up or three handed, if you get called or raised shut 'em down if you are out of position and if you are in position play the turn as it best makes sense for you to do given that particular opponents tendencies. This is one area where I find it to my advantage to be mixing my bets between half and full pot on the flop, as the continuation bet may get more respect at less than a half pot.

Low stakes I frequently just let the go on the flop when the A hits, the hand is likely to have been cracked by some godawful weak kicker junk, although I'm also more prone to pushing preflop with them in low stakes games. Bigger stakes, better opponents, a bet is often in order, as they are more likely to have a weak pair than AQ, again if they call or raise I'm done with the game if I don't hit my two outer on the turn. I rarely fold the flop to a min raise, as I don't want them to get the idea that I can be bought that cheap.
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Postby poker2006 » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:19 pm

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