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Postby AlamdeaMike » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:08 pm

Don't lose your entire stack in an unraised pot or with only one pair.
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:37 pm

Actually, as I recall it, thy say that th transition from pot-limit to no-limit is easier (which is obvious). Anyway, I think pot-limit requires more skill, and position is even more important than in no-limit. Both those things argues that it's better to try no-limit first. On th other hand, you're a bit more "protected" in pot-limit due to th limitations in bet sizes. Still, I'd recommend trying NL first since it's easier.

I actually make about twice as much in BB/100 in pot-limit compared to no-limit. I think this is mainly because:
- I value position, most opponents don't.
- Bad players can't just go all-in on the flop, they HAVE to play turn and river, more decisions from them equals more opportunities for them to make mistakes and for me not to. A classic example is the newbie that always goes all-in with the flush draw on the lop, in Pot-Limit I wll charge him all the way thnNOT pay him off, so I make a lot more.
- People feel safer and play looser
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:48 pm

Thanks for the feeback - I think I will give pot-limit a try for awhile and see if it works for me.
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Postby poker2006 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:22 pm

It's interesting that pots in PL actually can increase faster than pots in NL. People bet the pot a lot of times and it looks normal, while in NL if you bet the pot on flop, turn, river it looks very aggressive. This is except the all-in in NL of course.

In pot limit you have to do a lot of check-calling when you're not sure about your hand. Betting or raising will increase the pot much faster. You have to raise all your good hands preflop, so you can bet enough to protect them after the flop. You cannot slowplay too much because the pot will remain small and you won't get enough value.

I don't play PL too much on party, but I always do well when I do. I thing I like is pfp raises are usually smaller and I can call with small pp for a set. On the reverse, I would want to raise 6BB with AA/KK, but is they're no limpers ahead of you, you can't.
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:52 pm

Thanks - good infromation. The game is different but interesting.
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Postby bkholdem » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:56 pm

I'm not sure if your going to focus on tourneys or cash games but felt I should throw this in here. I play cash games and I almost never loose my stack on a coin flip. I assume that most players here are not getting in colnflip situations for 1/2 a buy in or a full buy in on any type of a regluar basis. In tourneys they are unavoidable because the increasing blinds force you to gamble more.

I think good no limit players are looking to get the majority of their stack in as substantial favorites.
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:19 pm

Don't lose your entire stack in an unraised pot or with only one pair.
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