Loose Prima table. I have everyone covered.

Techno-Tramp : Calls for 0.20
A_lagarn : Folds
JJSilver : Calls for 0.20
JonnyDo : Calls for 0.20
segast : Calls for 0.20
Stoneburg : Calls for 0.20
cashdesk : Calls for 0.20
bbdldave : Calls for 0.20
Frank_H : Calls for 0.10
mungo_inc : Bets 0.60
Techno-Tramp : Calls for 0.60
JJSilver : Folds
JonnyDo : Folds
segast : Folds
Stoneburg : Calls for 0.60
cashdesk : Calls for 0.60
bbdldave : Calls for 0.60
Frank_H : folds

Flop $4.80 [8s]
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mungo_inc : Bets 0.80
Techno-Tramp : Calls for 0.80
Stoneburg : Calls for 0.80
cashdesk : Calls for 0.80
bbdldave : Calls for 0.80

Turn $8.80 [3d]
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mungo_inc : Bets 1.00
Techno-Tramp : Went all-in 1.20
Stoneburg : Calls for 1.20
cashdesk : Folds
bbdldave : Calls for 1.20
mungo_inc : Went all-in 1.60
Stoneburg : Calls for 1.40
bbdldave : Calls for 1.40

River $17.80 [9c]
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Stoneburg : Checks


Normally I fold QJs to a raise, but this time I am getting mighty fine pot odds. After that, I just keep getting suckered in... I felt like a used slut afterwards.

Rule #1 for loose Prima tables with more than 3 people seeing a flop:

someone's got an Ace.

it doesn't matter if it's A-6 and the guilty party has no business being in the hand. someone's got an Ace. the small percentage of times where that's not true is more than offset by the money you will save by almost always assuming that it's true. i think that becomes even more obvious when 4 of your opponents see the turn. sure, the pot odds on the flop maybe warrant staying in with some hands that don't contain aces...but half of your Prima table has never heard of pot odds....so again...someone's got an ace.

jon

pf, with 3 limpers in front of me, i would call, too. on the flop, that is tempting, I would probably muck it though because really only your 2 Js are clean (a Q can put you in big trouble, b/c if you get action, you'll be behind) and you have two players behind you. and even if you catch a diamond, there's no guarantee you'll get odds to see the river. but i don't think it's a huge mistake to call, b/c you do have 12 cards that will allow you to continue.

I think you had the odds every time and it just never hit. It happens.

I hate calling with second pair on the flop, but when they're giving you 10:1 odds how can you resist?

I'm never thrilled about playing these hands, but I do it all the time. At Prima they just keep giving you odds. You may not lose much EV if you fold preflop, or on the flop, or even after the turn. With so many people in the pot obviously drawing to something, some of your outs may not be real. If somebody is playing AJ and somebody else has [6d] you're in a world of hurt.

Well my biggest worry is of course that AJ and AQ are in the hand, hell, if you add in I'm actually drawing dead! How should I handle the possibility here when I get good odds, but some of my outs may be polluted..?

"There are no dumb questions... but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."

I'm going to be the idiot here... when posters say Prima is that the same thing as Gaming Club? If so... I have to get there and play.