Does anyone ever check their pocket Kings on the flop?

I ran into this situation earlier today, and ended up losing a good chunk of change.

This is .25/.50 NL Ring

Pocket K's in the small blind. Several callers in front of me. I have about $25 in the small blind. Big blind has about $13. I raise it up to $5, bb calls instantly, everyone else folds. Ace comes on the flop. Now I am in a pickle. There is no feeler bet I can make to see if this guy has an ace without pot-comitting myself. I bet $5, he came over the top and I basically had to call. It was something like $2.50 to call a $25+ pot.

So afterwards I thought... I should really just check here and toss these in the muck. Thoughts?

He had A9s btw. And of course I did not improve.

Why did you raise so much preflop?

He only has $7 left and the pot is around $11 in the pot. This is a pretty clear case for me..just push it in! Of course u dont want to see the ace there but like u said, u will be pot-commited when u bet. Against one opponent it is not a guarantee that he has an ace and you may be way ahead. Also, you should sit at a level (stakes wise) where you can always keep your table stake at the maximum . You may get that KK again, flop as set and be against a guy with and underset...you will then regret not having the full $50 in front of you.

good flops

YogaDude


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You know I think it was only a $3 raise come to think of it. I had been stealing a lot of limps in position with that bet, and I was reasonably sure several people were itching to call. I also like to raise with Kings in that position to at least make the small aces pay to see a card.

In terms of the table stakes, it is a .25/.50 table at poker room with a $25 max buy-in.

If you have KK, an ace comes on the flop, and you are raised.... fold... Most people who don't have an ace, when an ace hits, will fold to a postflop bet, I would think. He may have something smaller and is trying to bluff, but do you wanna risk all your money on that gamble. You have to know he has AA,KK,AK, or QQ to call a 6x BB preflop bet... 2 of those you lose, one you push, and one you dominate... basically 2 to 1 you lose the hand... I would fold..

MVP

MVP,

I think you missed the point. I was first to act. If I put any reasonable sized bet in I am essentially locked into calling a raise, based on his small chip stack.

I think as much as this is weak, the correct play may have been to check the K's. This way I can still get away from the hand facing a huge bet. I will have to reread what Doyle says to do in this situation.

I would either push it all in out on the flop or check/fold. There is no in-between with the BB's short stack, it's "all or none".

As a side note, I can tell you that I would have gone all in Preflop. The reason is simple you have been stealing pots and can tell there are plenty of peeps at the table wanting to call. Yesterday, I had KK in the LB (200nl on Party) and had been overly aggressive for the previous few rounds. There was 7 limpers (yes I said 7 limpers!) so i thought "I'll just push it all in and see what happens". I was called by JJ for a nice profit of $190.


Sometimes you just gotta make it so obvious that they can't believe you actually have what you represent.

The size of the raise makes a big difference here.

Lets say its $5. Since the pot is about $11-$12 and he only has $7 or $8 left. Theres no reason to bet the flop.

If you bet he only calls or raises with an ace. if you check, he might bluff with a lower pair hoping you will fold because you dont have an ace.

So in other words, Im going to lose either way if he has an ace, but if I check, I will take his money when he bluffs with no ace as opposed to letting him fold when he has no ace.

Devil...

One of the many times when my mouth runs (or fingers type) before my brain can catch up... Didn't see he was so shortstacked... check and fold...

Okie, a couple days ago, I pushed that same situation, and some lucky bastard called me w/ AA, so it's not always so rosy...