Yeah, without really having tried it, I feel a lot more comfortable doing it with position.

After a re-raise, even something like AK on a hit is probably just as well off betting out as anything else, and if they play that way, it lets you off the hook cheap--assuming you missed.

I think I do it more OOP, because in 6-max there is simply more opportuinities.

Late position raises are generally weaker and so your 3-betting range should go down as well when you are protecting the blinds.

If you are 3 betting in position with most pairs, you are losing any possibility to play for set value and generally have to give up vs an EP 4-bet. If you flat call in position it is much easier to use other tools such as floating, semibluffing(for free cards), etc.

3-betting takes out a lot of any advantage you have(or don't have) in post flop play.

With pairs that are not "traditional" 3-betting hands like 22-88 I prefer to call in position and 3-bet or call OOP. The same can be said about SCs and other good but not premium hands that play well multiway.

Why?

In position I can (almost) assure myself to see a flop for relatively cheap and hope for a set. If I hit a set I can often get paid as my call of the PFR often causes one or more of the blinds to come along. If I don't hit a set I can still outplay my opponents some of the time, especially when heads up.

OOP it is very difficult to outplay your opponent, plus it is difficult to get paid when you hit. Therefore, since the value of seeing a flop is lower, 3-betting becomes a better option (heads up). If the pot is multiway, then calling is better since our implied odds are higher.

Good points there, too--leaving in my mind pros and cons to both.

6max I'm not so sure about the multi-way aspect. It seems anyway as if the vast majority of pots are 3-way or HU. I think if you can get it 4-way or better then just calling with the middle pairs is better really with or without position, since you're getting quite good pot odds already.

I think from LP, doing it with that range might be for one thing a recipe to slow down someone whom you feel is raising too much in EP. You definitely don't want to do it against someone in EP who's overly tight because you do have good chances of their having a big hand and you don't want to get blown off yours.

They're probably also pretty decent re-raises as blind defense OOP.

Objectively, if you're re-raising moderately on 77+ and AQ+, does KJ have to lay down to the re-raise? I kind of think so.

Anyhow, what I've kind of been experimenting with today (and am rather liking) is making various re-raises, often with junk but sometimes with big hands, in principle from all positions--enough where they know I can't be doing it even with a JJ+ and AK range but trying to keep them guessing about the whole thing.

Doing this, I do end up getting a reasonable number of callers.

Also, I think I tend to like a larger re-raise OOP (with like 4-5x bet) the intention of taking the pot down immediately but a smaller re-raise (more like 3xbet) with position.

Good points there, too--leaving in my mind pros and cons to both.

6max I'm not so sure about the multi-way aspect. It seems anyway as if the vast majority of pots are 3-way or HU. I think if you can get it 4-way or better then just calling with the middle pairs is better really with or without position, since you're getting quite good pot odds already.

I think from LP, doing it with that range might be for one thing a recipe to slow down someone whom you feel is raising too much in EP. You definitely don't want to do it against someone in EP who's overly tight because you do have good chances of their having a big hand and you don't want to get blown off yours.

They're probably also pretty decent re-raises as blind defense OOP.

Objectively, if you're re-raising moderately on 77+ and AQ+, does KJ have to lay down to the re-raise? I kind of think so.

Anyhow, what I've kind of been experimenting with today (and am rather liking) is making various re-raises, often with junk but sometimes with big hands, in principle from all positions--enough where they know I can't be doing it even with a JJ+ and AK range but trying to keep them guessing about the whole thing.

Doing this, I do end up getting a reasonable number of callers.

Also, I think I tend to like a larger re-raise OOP (with like 4-5x bet) the intention of taking the pot down immediately but a smaller re-raise (more like 3xbet) with position.