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Postby Twelver » Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:38 am

I had just sat down at the table. Villan has me covered.

$25 NL @ Empire

I limp in from UTG + 1 with [As] [Js]. Villan also limps, CO min raises, Button calls, BB Calls, I call and Villan calls. 5 people to the flop.

Pot = $1.60
Flop [8s] [Qc] [Ts]
BB leads out for $1, I raised to $3? ( Should I have raised more? I have a pretty nice draw and wanted to see where I stood), Villan reraises me to $5. Folds back to me, Obviously I am not going to fold here, should I just call and see what the turn brings, or maybe push in? My initial thought was that he had a set, which meant I would need to catch either a K to make a straight or another spade for the flush.

What is everyones play?

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:24 am

I'm pushing. You're forgetting the 9 would give you a straight aswell. That + the money in the pot is more than enough to give you the correct odds to make the call. So push here and get your money in and hope for the best. There's also the folding equity you have incase he's holding AQ or two pair and thinks you have either a set or straight already; pushing is definitely my choice here.
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Postby Twelver » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:31 am

Dooh!

I knew that the 9 would help as well. Just forgot to include it in the post.

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Postby Stoneburg » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:46 am

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Postby briachek » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:01 am

the bb bet, you raised and the CO still min raised you. Something smells fishy here like a set which you will win against about 40% of the time. I say you just call the min raise since it gives you great odds to chase and you can save money if the board pairs but you will likely be able to extract money from him if you hit.
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Postby Stoneburg » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:08 am

I don't think the CO neccesarily has a set, him and BB might very well be sitting on an overpair and top pair respectively. If BB had a set I would expect him to check to the prelfop raiser, Top Pair or something makes more sense. CO might very well be raising just because he raised preflop... after all, he miniraised, so he IS a muppet.

Since you're ahead of TP and KK, might as well push it, there's a lot of money in the pot so you don't mind if they all fold, but if they call you're not even far behind to a set.
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Postby rdale » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:13 am

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Postby Twelver » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:19 am

BB folded and I called the extra $2. Not sure if this is the right play or not, but like it was said earlier...with this big of a draw, there is a lot of ways of playing it.

Pot = $12.60
Turn = [Ac]
I checked????, Villan bets $6, Hero?

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Postby kennyg » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:24 am

I would push it in.

You have a great draw and you want it in the flop, where you have better odds to hit your hand...

Also...while it looks like the villain isn't going anywhere....if he has something like AQ..its not an easy call for him. You're repping a flopped straight or set.

if anyone is actually paying attention this helps your image too.

you probably won't get paid off (especially on the flush) if you just call and wait for later streets.

rdale.....why would him having KJ be bad??? KJ is openended but he has one of his outs and is dominating him with the kicker and nut flush draw. J9 would be a lot worse.
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Postby briachek » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:38 am

Kenny,

speaking of KJ, you would advocate pushing in on the turn now that one of your straight draws is tainted? He now may be drawing to a K for a split of the flush for a win. Out of position, I play this hand more cautiously without a read. With position, I play it more aggressively.
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Postby Nashvegas » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:41 am

Raising "to see where you stand" is unnecessary in this case -- all of your outs are to the nuts. If you're gonna raise, you should be doing it for different reasons.
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Postby kennyg » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:03 pm

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Postby Twelver » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:08 pm

I did call the turn bet.

Pot = $24.60
River = [5h]

I checked, Villan bets $1??????, Hero ?

Anyone care to guess what he had?

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Postby briachek » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:45 pm

no reason to raise and you can't fold.

I'm gonna guess he had QT.
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Postby kennyg » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:07 pm

ummm...a $1??? i'm gonna guess AK
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