Hello everyone!

This is my first post here, been doing some interesting reading and thought its time to finally post a question myself

I ahve not been playing for long so please go a bit easy on me...
I usually play the .25/.50 PL or NL games... so compared to a lot of you I am really small fry..

Rather than explain exactly what happened, please have a look here and tell me what you think.. (I had to cut it slightly to so the usernames would not show... but its me on the left with K6o... and i lose the hand)

I guess I was too agressive... I am finding it hard to strike that balance between too agressive and just right or pushover...

Comments and advise most welcome.

Thanks in advance!
R

Edit: I think my biggest mistake was i pegged him on something like AK / A10..

Flop: Fold to flop bet(I'm not very interested in calling OOP with a weak hand here). Fold to flop check-raise. I guess if I get to the turn and hit Kings up, I'm going to try and get the money in(bet close to pot, call a push), but I'm hopefully not getting into this scenario...it never looks good for hero here at any point. Please do not be confused by my comments about your turn and river street play: I feel you had to find a fold on the flop somewhere.

Turn: I don't understand your turn minimum check-raise 3-bet. It doesn't accomplish anything IMO. Once, you make Kings up, I imagine the goal is to get all of money in because it's exactly the card you were hoping for when you called each bet on the flop. I agree with Rhound though...a 4th raise on the turn usually means a monster hand because he's trying to draw you in.

River: I see no reason to bet 7.50 on the river here when you have $15 left and a $30 pot. You aren't folding if he pushes the river. Just shove.

Play with the button more. He doesn't seem to like money. BTW, slowplaying the set of seven's like villain did against two players on a decently drawy board IMO is bad.

welcome

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well this is 50nl and a limped pot, i'd just fold the flop. You don't wanna play bottom pair in a limped pot when basically you are often behind but even more often, have no clue what everybody has and are oop (out of position). Button can steal here, but what's ur plan in calling? call his minbet, check any random turn without improvement? what if he bets again? So i just fold to his minbet.

As played: rhound+1
i think he states it very well. What u were doing was basically "call and see next card" then pound any improvement whatever happens. Put urself in villains shoes, with what is he doing that? with what would u do that?

try to count hands you beat (on the flop, this is just a pure bluff you beat, u are always behind there)
on turn this is:
T6, T7 (there are 3 tens and 2 sixes, so 3x2=6 combos, T7, 3 tens, 3 sixes -> 3x3=9 combos... so overall 6+9=15 combos) but it depends on the player whether they'll raise raise raise with any 2 pairs on any board in a limped pot... so you might cut down that number

you're beat by
89, KT, 66, 77, TT, hell maybe KK depending on the player...
(4 eights, 4 nines -> 4x4=16, KT, 2x3=6, 66: 1, 77:3, TT:3 ~ overall 27 combos) when you plan to put your stack in, you should be sure to be win 50% of the time in minimum to do the move

just keep your fingers out of limped pots without a really strong hand is my advice, it's very hard to put someone on a hand in limped pots and the more you move up, the less it will happen that there's a limped pot.

And yeah... use smth like holdemmanager and read excessions pokertracker articles.

eidt: ah i wasnt close watching on the turn action. Once you arrive there i think i'd have hard time to put the hand away with the button minraise and the weak raises. In this case you have to maximize winnings against worse hands, as you'll have hard time to fold the hand, make him do the calls with worse hands. By shoving he'll call with T7 etc too, but by betting weakish he'll probably simply call on the river with those hands, but with 89 he's gonna raise you allin every single time

Ryans,

What you are doing is pretty much the same as anyone who starts out at poker. It can be hard enough to know what you have let alone try to put your opponants on hands. Reading poker books is good to get concepts but the only thing that is going to make you really better at poker is to play. I dont advise giving up totally, maybe move down a level or stay where you are and continue to read poker forums and review hands and try to improve.