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What to do with AA after this flop check-raise

Postby Alchemist » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:13 am

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (10 handed)

CO ($22.55)
Button ($11.50)
SB ($7.85)
BB ($25)
UTG ($51.45)
UTG+1 ($27.25)
UTG+2 ($24.25)
MP1 ($17.75)
Hero ($24.15)
MP3 ($21.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [Ad], [As].
UTG raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, 5 folds, UTG calls $1.65.

Flop: ($5.35) [9d], [5c], [Kd] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $8, Hero ?
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Postby k3nt » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:30 am

If he had KK he probably re-raises the flop, so that one's out. Would he raise 99 that much preflop? That sort of weak-ish preflop raise looks like it could well be 99.

But it could also be AK. Tough to say.

It's a minraise so Ice says fold. I say some folks will check-minraise TPTK there. Maybe not on UB though?

On Prima, I'd raise him back and think about folding if he pushes. Although I might be committed at that point. Hmm....

EDIT: how did he get his big stack? super aggressive or ...?
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Postby Alchemist » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:39 am

He was LP (although only at table for 30-40 hands) but hitting cards
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Postby T-Rod » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:09 pm

I don't fold that, especially at the $25 table where people tend to gamble more and the "min reraise" rule applies less.

I would try to slow down the hand. Just calling the bet and then looking at his turn bet. If his turn bet is less than 75% of the pot, i'd probably feel pretty good.

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Postby kennyg » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:42 pm

I'm putting it all in. That min raise could be an AK or KQ. If he has kings..so be it.
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Postby Aisthesis » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:41 pm

I'm with Kenny on the all-in, but a note on your re-raise:

Against an unknown opponent, I really prefer re-raising more simply because I don't know whether I can believe them on a set or not. My intention, if they call is to go all the way with AA unless the flop is absolutely horrible, but I don't want to put them in a favorable odds situation to set on me.

But if the PF re-raise is to $2.50, he's only calling $1.65 for a shot at your stack of $24. That does give him odds for the set if he has something like 99 (and a lot of people do like raising 55 as well).

This larger raise does somewhat devalue your AA against perceptive opponents (we don't know here whether this guy is or not), because they can just lay down.

If I know my player a little better, I can re-raise smaller--hoping that AK might give me some dead money and at least having some idea how far this opponent will go with JJ under various circumstances. If I do re-raise smaller, I like to be a bit careful if a J or Q flops--not to say I'm not betting it, but I try to figure out a hand strategy so that I don't get stacked if they set.

I will say that AA really made my week this past week--getting frivolous callers to big raises PF. I needed it because I got into a lot of bad set situations...
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