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When should I have laid this down?

Postby Twelver » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:17 am

Sorry I still can't get the hand converter to work.

$25 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 16, 21:06:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 37061 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: BlacknBad ( $28.3 )
Seat 3: Bhiggs1042 ( $18.93 )
Seat 4: stroutr19 ( $29.05 )
Seat 7: twelver1232 ( $43.85 )
Seat 8: bridgepekk ( $28.7 )
Seat 9: EmpireEd ( $18.5 )
Seat 10: Auruin7 ( $17.4 )
Seat 5: CSCO_Kid ( $25 )
Seat 1: Perfct_Ten ( $24.65 )
Seat 6: apeyard911 ( $30.25 )
Bhiggs1042 posts small blind [$0.1].
stroutr19 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to twelver1232 [ Kc Qc ]
CSCO_Kid calls [$0.25].
apeyard911 calls [$0.25].
twelver1232 calls [$0.25].
bridgepekk folds.
EmpireEd folds.
Auruin7 calls [$0.25].
Perfct_Ten folds.
BlacknBad calls [$0.25].
Bhiggs1042 calls [$0.15].
stroutr19 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, Kh, Ts ]
Bhiggs1042 checks.
stroutr19 bets [$0.25].
CSCO_Kid calls [$0.25].
apeyard911 calls [$0.25].
twelver1232 raises [$3].
Auruin7 folds.
>You have options at Table 36917 Table!.
BlacknBad folds.
Bhiggs1042 calls [$3].
stroutr19 folds.
CSCO_Kid calls [$2.75].
apeyard911 calls [$2.75].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
Bhiggs1042 bets [$5].
CSCO_Kid folds.
apeyard911 calls [$5].
twelver1232 calls [$5].
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
Bhiggs1042 is all-In.
apeyard911 calls [$10.68].
twelver1232 calls [$10.68].
Bhiggs1042 shows [ Qh, 9c ] a straight, nine to king.
apeyard911 shows [ Kd, 4c ] a pair of kings.
twelver1232 shows [ Kc, Qc ] a pair of kings.
Bhiggs1042 wins $58.04 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.

My first question is should I have raised before the flop? I was in middle position and had a couple callers in front of me. Or is this a hand you want to see with a bunch of people in it? I think my raise on the flop is ok. After three callers I should assume I am behind there though correct? Should I have called the Turn bet? I did not have much of a read on Bhiggs. I knew that apeyard was a complete fish, so I was not really worried about him. I certainly should have let it go on the river, I should have know I was beat then right? How would you all have played this?

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Postby iceman5 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:37 am

The flop raise is very nice, but when you get called 3 times on that flop, it would be hard for me to believe youre ahead. I think you need a straight to win.

AQ, Q9, KJ, KT, JT all beat you and those are all hands that people play. At least one of them has to have one of those hands.
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Postby Twelver » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:53 am

Should I have raised it up preflop to perhaps eliminate some of the callers?

When should I have been done with the hand? As soon as I saw the three callers on the flop, or was I getting the right odds to draw for my straight with the call of the $5 bet on the turn? I am getting almost 5:1 on my call. $24 in the pot/ $5 to call, and I have 8 outs, assuming that no one already has any of the outs, which clearly they did.

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Postby briachek » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:21 am

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