Ice and Trodge how did the casino trip go?

[Twelver]

Lets here all the stories of how you two broke every minnow swimming in that place.

[iceman5]

OK, heres a little trip report.

We got there at about 4:30PM. Last time I went, they opened at 4pm. They had 1 $2/$5NL table and 1 $5/$10NL table. Now they open at 10AM and they have NL tables everywhere. They had 4 $1/$2NL tables going and numerous other NL tables open. Tim wanted to play $1/$2 since it was his 1st time to play live. I told him over and over that he would be better than most everyone playing those stakes. I went ahead and putmyself on the $1/$2 list and the $2/$5 list

I got called for $1/$2 in about 30 mins and Tim got called right after me but we got seated at different tables. I could see him though so I was keeping an eye on him.

1) My very 1st hand, Im on the button (dont have to post) and I get dealt KQ. 2 limpers and I raise to $20. They both call. 10BBs and they both call

Flop is all rags. I bet $50 into the $60 pot and they both fold. 2 guys say "show us your aces". This is gonna be fun.


2) I limp with QT after a couple limpers. Flop QQ6. Checked around.
Pot $10. Turn T putting a flush draw on the board. Guy bets $10, a call, and I call.
Pot $30 River 3. Guy bets $15, a fold and I raise to $50 which he calls with T7 This is gonna be fun

3) I limp 98s after 2 limpers.
Pot $10. Flop KJ9 with flush draw. Checked around
Pot $10. Turn 3. Guy bets $15, a call from a guy whos chasing flushes left and right. I raise to $45. 1st guy folds but chaser calls.
Pot $115. River 2. He checks, I bet $70 and he folds.

4) Mr Flush chaser raises to $15. Guy to my right just sat down and reraises to $35. I have 99 and fold. Flush chaser calls. Flop A94.
Flush chaser open pushes for $50. Reraiser calls with AK. UGH!!!! Flush chaser has QT
I didnt want to call $35 preflop when the guy only had $225 or so.

Im dominating these weakies and I have a $460 stack after about 2 hours. I got called form the $2/$5 game but by now I really liked this tabel and stayed.

5) My one bad hand. Flush chaser moron limps. I raise to $15 with KK. He says "I call that obvious bluff" and calls. He said that once before and it meant about the same thing as his open push with QT. Absolutley nothing.

Hes reloaded and won some pots now though so he has about $325. I have $460.
Pot $33. Flop T99. He leads for $25. Ive gone over and over this hand in my head and still havent come to a conclusion. Heres the question: If he had shown me his cards accidently and I knew he had a T, is it correct to raise? Well if I know he'll call then sure it is, but I dont know that. I could let him be my hand for me and milk him. Also , he could have a smaller pocket pair or maybe have a 9. I decide to just call.

Pot $83. Turn Q. Now he leads for $50. Same dilema. If I raise now, he will put me on AQ and most likely fold unless he has a 9. I flat call.

Pot $183. River T.....UGH UGH UGH. He bets $100. Now, youre probably thinking "you shouldve raise you moron, he wouldve folded his ten". But did I really want him to fold when he has 2 outs (if he has a ten)? Hes 19-1 against rivering a T. I think the answer lies in how often he will bet the river even if he doesnt river a T. He must think that I have AK since I havent raised so i think he WILL bet the river without improving.

Like I said, Im still confused about this one though. Aggression wins, but I think this might have been the right time to just call him down based on the fact that he betting my hand for me when hes most likely way behind....or he might have a 9 and Im way behind. If I raise the flop and he reraises, I have to fold.

#6) I limp [9c] after 2 limpers. Guy to my left raises to $10 and everyone calls.
Pot $40. Flop [8s][4s]. Checked to the raise who bets $15. Folded to me and I check raise to $65. He has $160 left and Ive seen him make 2 good laydowns.

He pushes all in. UGH! I ask if he'll show if I fold (which Im doing anyway) and he says yes. I fold and he shows [Jc]. Damn it! I really like my check raise after seeing he had J's. I cant believe he pushed in there.

We played for about 5 hours and I won $2 The KK hand killed me and I couldnt get anything going after that.

Tim won $300 and played very well from what I saw and from the hands he described to me. I like this place and I may go back next week.

[Twelver]

Wow 40cents/hr......that a way to tear it up Ice....j/k

Nice post....and I agree with your ratinal on the KK hand. You are either way behind or way ahead so might as well let him bet it for you. Granted if you reraise to $75 on the flop and he pushes in then you may be able to get out of it a little cheaper.

[iceman5]

Did I mention that he had T3s?

[Twelver]

[T-Rod]

Okay here tis.

PRETRIP STATUS--As some of you know or have guessed I have been on one hell of a wretched losing streak. I'll spare you the details, but to say the least, I was a bit nervous playing live for the first time (not counting informal home games), never having played at $200NL or $500NL, playing full ring instead of 6-max for a change, and having my poker game feel like an unfolded lawn chair. But I'm an optimist, and I figured I had serious good luck equity all stored up waiting to burst.

And then i went to the bank to get some cash. I drive up to the atm with gf, go to stick in my card, and notice a wad of cash just sitting there. WTF??? Now what to do? Funny how you get tested at the strangest times. Well, I returned the cash and gave it to the branch manager. I figured it a sacrifice to the kharma gods!! I must have good luck now, right?

TRIP REPORT--We arrive at the casino, put our names on the $1/2 list, and start watching a 2/5 table. Instantly, I felt that this was gonna be good. Ice and I would look at the table, then look at each other, then shake our heads. Wow these guys were BAD. For example, you raise to $10BB, you get 4 callers. They'll call that raise the J9o and then fold on the flop. Wow. Almost every flop was checked (at least at my table) and if there was a raise it'd be a min raise. People routinely bet $10 into a $50 pot with TPTK, 4 people in the hand, and lots of draws on the board. Huh? If you asked someone about "pot odds," I promise you most would think it was the odds of you getting busted smoking weed.

So I sit down at the table still pretty nervous but feeling a little better... and then I notice who's directly to my left. I bought in for $200 at the 1/2 game which for some reason surprised the floor guy. So I look to my left and then look back at my little stack. He had at least 6 times my stack. Ouch. His chips looked like some kid making a lego castle. He had trouble seeing over them. He would routinely make bets by saying, "So, how much you got there." I decided I'd just click on a different room... damn... I was playing live. Great just what I needed.

But I had appeased the kharma gods earlier, who soon planted a seed of disconent in this guys girlfriend who insisted they leave. Big stack soon left. Thank you poker gods.

HANDS-I played pretty tight most of the way and probably only played 6-7 hands all night. This was uncommon at the table as at least half the table would limp to see the flop.

Third hand at the table and I'm in BB and knuckle it with A[d] 8[d]. Flop is A[h] 9[c] 2[d]. I bet the pot and get 1 caller. Caller is a twin to the Supersize Me guy. It must have been funny to see the both of us at the table. Turn brings Q[h]. I bet 3/4 pot and same guy calls. Uh oh. I figure I'm beat by two pair or better kicker. River is a blank and I check and he surprisingly checks. We showdown and he has A[c] 3[h]. LOL. I instantly thought he was a fish until I later realized how many people will call you down with second or third pair. It happened in 75% of the hands.

I'm dealt A[s] K[s] OTB and raise x10BB (standard here) and 3 limpers call me. Flop is 7[d] 4[h] 4[d]. All checks and I bet 3/4 pot continutation. Blue collar guy calls. I have about $240 and he has less than a full stack. Turn brings K[h]. He makes a very weak bet like 1/8 pot. I ask him how much he has left and put him in as he is pretty short. He folds and Supersize me guy says, "Show my those aces." I say, "pay per view boys."

I limp with 4 others OTB with Q[s] T[s]. Flop has Q[h] and 2 low cards. Scarnose guy (he had about 50 stitches in his nose) bets 1/2 pot and I call. He's decent, but I've also seen him fire 3 bullets with 2nd pair. Turn is a rag. He bets same amount and I call. River is T[h] and I have top two with no flush. He thinks and makes a bigger bet, I raise him x2 his bet and he FOLDS. Wow. I probably should have raised him earlier but if you raise someone on the flop to define your hand, you are guaranteed a call and now you're in a big pot.

Easy money hand. I'm in CO with A[s] A[h]. I've been raising from OTB and CO all night and no one respects it. I raise to $15 (7BB). Gamewatcher Guy raises me to $50. Gamewatcher was sitting directly to my left but moved across the table to get a better view of the game on TV. When to my left, he would not peek at his cards, but pick them up like he was reading the newspaper. I noticed that he played all sorts of junk and I also know he is a CS. Now he raised me $50 so I know with 95% certainty he's on a big pair. I push and he insta-calls with K[d] K[h]. I take his full stack. He leaves. Bad luck for him, but I guarantee you he makes that same play and call with TT.

I limp in LP with T[c] T[h]. Flop is Q[h] 9[d] T[s]. I'm in EP and I BTP and Blue Collar guy calls. Turn brings J[h]. Yuck. I don't like that card and I'm probalby going to have to fold. But poker gods are smiling and its check/check. River is a blank. I check and blue collar guy bets 1/5 pot. I look at him for about 10 seconds and say, "RAISE." The whole table starts ooohing and aaahing. I raise him about x2 pot and he calls with Q[h] 7[d]. LOL. The table is looking at me funny now!!!

Most difficult hand was against a tough Asian guy who looked just like John Juada. Freaky. He had about $600 in front of him and I had about $250. I saw him get all in $300 with another decent player. Flop was AQJ. Other player was betting huge on every street and John Juada called him with AJ. They spit as other guy had AJ. Tough. Also, in an earlier hand, Supersize Me guy insta-folded when John Ju. raised the flop. Supersize me guy said he folded TPGK and that's the first raise he'd seen John Ju make all night.
Now the hand. I limp with 2 others in LP with K[c] 9[c]. Flop comes out A[c] 6[c] 9[h]. Oooohaaaah. Nut flush draw and lots of other outs. EP guy bets $15 (it's not a sign of anything as "$15" is the standard bet on the flop because the chips are all $5 denomination). John Juada calls his $15. Now, my read is EP has his A paired and John Ju is probably on a draw. If he has a set or two pair, he should raise there since he doesn't want to give me odds to draw. I raised it to $75. EP insta-folds as I expected. John Ju. stops thinks for about 15 seconds and then pushes all in. WTF??? I have 9 nut flush another 2 outs on the 9 and unlikely another 3 with my K. After thinking and thinking I folded. He later asked me what I had and I told him. He said he had two pair. If he did, I think he misplayed it by calling but sure was gutsy in pushing.

SUMMARY--All in all it was quite enjoyable even if Ice and I didn't get to share a table. I netted about $300 in profit from this calling station circus. Next time, I'll probably play with Ice at the 2/5 game as it did not seem like the players there were any better.

[Twelver]

Great read Tim...thanks for the post.

[Cactus Jack]

Where was this, guys?

[iceman5]

Winstar Casino on the border of Oklahoma and Texas

[T-Rod]

Winstar is actually an Apache word. It means "Fish Tank"

[Dumb Snowman]

Wow, that's awesome