Mitchell Report

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[AlexMR]

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The answer to the greatest pitcher of all time - or at least the modern era (you really gonna dis Cy Young?). I present to you, the pitcher who was at his peak for over a decade, 1969-1981:

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Pedro, Clemens, Maddux........what about Randy Effin Johnson???

Anyway, since Full Tilt is down and I'm kind of a baseball geek, I'm actually reading this thing. About 70 pages in and some interesting stuff already:
- I guess that some of you knew this already, but I didn't. HGH does not increase muscle strength or have really anything to do with performance enhancement. But it does allow people to recover from injury more quickly. So why is it illegal? Why not even encourage it? Dangerous side effects.
- Even though there was minor league testing long before major league testing, players on the team's 40 man roster were exempt, even if they were playing in the minors. This pissed a lot of minor league players off because they had an even bigger advantage.
- So many clean major league players were pissed off that "users" were taking their spot that they refused to submit to a survey test in 2003 because they knew a refusal would be counted as a positive test and if more than 5% tested positive, random drug testing would be implemented.

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[Xaston]

MTPaid,

Pretty sure HGH does a lot more than speeding injury recovery. I should know, I took it for 13 years.

But to be technical, when you go to the gym and lift you are, in a sense, injuring your body. With proper rest and nutrition your body repairs the muscles stronger than before. If we significantly reduce that rest time, are we not enhancing a player's performance?

Also no point in syaing "well can't you say the same thing about protein powder or creatine?" because those are supplements of things you can easily get by eating normal food. The powders just make it a lot easier. There's no food out there that you can eat to replace HGH injections.

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[k3nt]

Just quoting something off a blog I read re: the Mitchell report. Since I don't have any opinions or knowledge of my own on this subject, maybe this can substitute....

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I read the entire Mitchell Report yesterday. Yep -- 409 pages. I have several observations:

* I am not surprised that none of the steroid links in the report go beyond the media reports we already had. In other words, there is no real news here. Mitchell and his staff did a lot of rewriting of stuff we already knew and almost no digging.

* Mitchell, who is a director of the Boston Red Sox, did not name any current Red Sox players in the report. The report does have a nice anecdote about the Red Sox management deciding not to trade for a pitcher who was rumored to be "on the juice." Ah, literature's team. So squeaky clean. Hmmmmmmm.

* A whole lot of the players named -- the vast majority, in fact -- had really lame and short careers. So how much "performance enhancement" actually went on? In other words, how come the Orioles sucked so badly over the last decade when so many of their players were juiced?

* Most of the players named had spent at least a little time on an AL East club. No other division was as heavily represented -- not even the NL West. Toronto seemed to be a hotbed of dealing and dabbling once Canseco showed up. But we knew that.

* A whole lot of Mets and Yankees are on the list, including one from the 1986 Mets. Bitter over something, George?

Anyway, the reports tells us a lot of what we already knew: Steroid use was rampant and regular. A few stars used it. A lot of bad players used it. And nobody did anything about it (except, apparently, the angelic Red Sox front office). Yawn.

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