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Postby JudgeRoyBean » Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:38 pm

About the only law left, west of the Pecos.
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Postby Beavis68 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:27 pm

been playing poker most of your life? so like 15 years :lol: ?

The WSOP is not held at Binions anymore and hasnt been for a few years.

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1 player, 2 players, 8 players, yes it is a call, this is one of the old poker questions on the internet.

About your worst case is that you are 60% to double up (one guy has AA and the other two have KK and QQ and you are 60% to split the pot) other wise you are beter than 60% to 4x up (unless one guy is playing low pairs and SCs then it drops to 55% but still great odds). Damn good odds and better than any other chance you will have in the tournament.
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Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:33 pm

"Are the players better as the stakes go up? It's not an exam; it's a buyin." Barry Tanenbaum
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Postby Beavis68 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:35 pm

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Postby JudgeRoyBean » Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:59 pm

About the only law left, west of the Pecos.
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Postby adamh » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:46 pm

mets better step it up
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Postby Kuso » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:53 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby Beavis68 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:21 pm

no, it does not assume you have to show down a lot of hands.

think about it. the average player is 50% to double up or bust.

read the article for more insight.

even if yo uare a small ball play and can exploit tells, there is a limit to how over you can double up or bust. I did the math before on different ROIs in large field tourneys for the different percentages, and it goes up insanely high very quickly.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:07 pm

maybe we have to agree to disagree here.

to have a 55% chance of quadrupling, you have to have (roughly) a 75% chance of doubling.

i'm guessing if you offered the good chip accumulors (e.g., Mizrachi, Negreanu, Smith, Juanda, etc.) $10 million if they could meet this standard over a certain period of time against current "typical" fields in Bellagio-style deep double-stack (e.g., 20k) well-structured tourneys, i think they could do it.

of course, all tourneys aren't that style and none of use are as good as those guys, but i'm just trying to say that a deep stack in the hands of a skilled and motivated player affords a huge edge.
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Postby Beavis68 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:35 am

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Postby Beavis68 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:38 am

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Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:47 am

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Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:50 am

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