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Postby J L Fiasco » Wed May 04, 2005 8:31 am

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Postby excession » Wed May 04, 2005 10:09 am

The stats all look fine - what's your PTBB/100?

An aggressive player with a Vp$iP 15-25% can expect a WtSD of 20-25% or so..
Those a little higher (like me at 28% Vp$iP) can expect to be in the 15-20% range.

I know folks get excited about W$SD but mine is barely 50% and I'm still winning 12PTBB/100...so long as I'm winning the big ones and hammering the opponents on each street to pick up more than my fair share of hands that don't go to showdown, anything over 50% is fine IMHO..(remember that not all SD's are two-way).

On the other hand if you play weak-tight you will need a higher W$SD to compensate..
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Postby J L Fiasco » Wed May 04, 2005 10:28 am

Thanks for the reply excession. My PTBB is 8.95 over a sample of close to 8000 hands. VPIP is at 17.83.
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Postby APerfect10 » Wed May 04, 2005 12:34 pm

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Postby TD » Thu May 25, 2006 8:54 am

I am puzzled by my showdown numbers. I am a V$IP-23, PFR-9.99%, TA-3.2 PTBB-8.5

Sample size--9000 hands

Won $ WSF--39%
WSD%--------24%
W$SD---------42%
Folded at River--47%

My W$SD seems to be lower than most winners. If I could get it close to 50% I would be a monster. As a conflict, my Won $ when seeing flop is higher than most.

It could be that my aggressive style is driving out all but the best hands and therefore when I'm called down I'm usually beat. I also get a lot of free cards and free looks at showdown. With UA, I tend to scare the opposition. Also, in my game (100nl) many players buy in for the minimum ($20 )and force me to showdown. (I prefer to end the action w/o showdown, especially with my record) Also, it could be that I haven't got my share of help from the deck. For example, I have only been dealt AA 50% less than what the average number should be and It could be that I'm far down on suckouts.

What else could the low W$SD number be? Could I be folding to much? Not aggressive enough at river? To me it seems that if I throw more money at the river it would be more losses. I do play many hands that I don't improve but I also win nearly 50% of the pots that I enter. (which obviously is a tradeoff) Maybe, I shouldn't be concerned with it.

My PF aggression # are:
Flop--4.48
Turn--2.66
River--1.45
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