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Furthering our education..........

Postby Jeffm351 » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:13 pm

There are several up and coming NL player on this forum that would benifit from further education, Im interested in learning to paly a more profitable game from the semi-pros/Successfull amature players that frequent these forums. We read Hand analysis's and hear about strategies, But im looking for a bit more!

Im interested in studying play styles from poker traker data bases or session HHs to get a better idea how you play a wide range of hands. what you may consider routine, may be a new tool for me...

If its not considered too intrusive, If any of you that routinly dominate the $100.00+ tables are willing to share mass HHs/Data bases, I would be interested in seeing them, as would im sure others that are trying to further their game!
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Postby kennyg » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:46 pm

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Postby k3nt » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:12 pm

Let me piggyback on Jeff's idea.

I agree that I would love to that learn about hands that top players consider to be not exceptional. As far as I'm concerned, though, it could just be in the regular forums. Start off with something like "Here's a hand I just played. I've played a dozen like it in the past four table hours and I made money 10 times out of 12."

Or, for that matter, "Here's a hand I just played and lost. I find I tend not to win hands in this situation, and I'm considering avoiding these situations in the future."

If people want to go Jeff's suggested route and give us access to a huge data dump of hands, that wouldn't be a bad idea, either. But on a more basic level, let me offer my encouragement to the top players (even if you don't consider yourself one -- if you play $100 NL and up and win consistently, you are!) to post more hands, more often. Hands don't have to be exceptional or surprising to be educational.
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Postby tetsuo » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:07 pm

I agree with k3nt. Demonstrating a pattern of thought or play doesn't have to involve an 'exceptional hand with 'astounding reads', just some thoughts which can be mulled over by the rest of the group.
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Postby Soul » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:07 am

When I first started playing poker ( was playing tournaments), I got a chance to watch several SNG's at different levels played by winning players in a HH replayer (teamfu site). Some even by top 5 SNG players on Party playing the $200's. And some had commentaries. Watching those replays I learned more then any other thing I've read or studied. Because the thing is even though most of us here have read alot of theory, our confidence level is still at a place where we need confirmation on how to play. Watching a regular session from a winning player would be a tremendous help for many of us.

The great thing about NL is that even if the hand histories got mass distrbuted, unless the watcher has significant theoretical knowledge in advance, they won't be able to adapt the play becuase they won't understand the principles behind it.

If people are still hesitant to share HH's on the site for all to see, we could always make some sort of arrangement by private messages or email for the ones that has expressed interest in this?
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Postby tooters » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:14 am

Im interested
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Postby Jeffm351 » Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:14 am

Im still very interested in this idea, f you would rather not post a link for down loading somthing like this, My email addy is jeffm351@cableone.net. Anything I recieve would be kept in confidentiality.
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Postby Sunbob » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:46 pm

I have to agree with Kent - a block of hand histories wouldn't be my personal preference but a post of some significant hands - with commentary - would be very helpful to me. Maybe something along the lines of a 1 hour block showing the hands you chose to play. That might be just 5 - 8 hands but could help some of us begginners to "get inside your head" and learn a lot. It might look something like:

Hand #13 - 77 in MP2 - called Lp raise - missed flop - fold.
Hand #27 - AKo in LP - flopped A 8 4 (full commentary)
hand #35 - 87s on button - raised 3x (that's for Iceman) - commentary.

Don't know - just a rough idea but if one of you guys posted a session like that it just might help us out. I know it could be a long post but I think I would be one of the readers. I'm willing to bet it woudl generate a lot of comments as well.
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Postby tooters » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:39 pm

I disagree, I would like to see like the whole hour or two of hands because the hands you don't play would be just as interesting and informative as the ones you do. If it's possible couldn't you just post a whole HH file, or email as an attachment the text docs that usually hold the HH's to the people that are interested.

As far as annonimity goes on party skins you can change your name once every 6 months. if any of you guys have done this lately maybe we could get the HH's from the old alias. Or if you guys haven't done this maybe you could and give us HH's from the old alias that way.

Then we could just put the hands through a replayer and post questions on each hand as we had questions, refering to them by hand number.

If some pro or semi pro was willing to do this not only would I be interested I would be willing to pay. Somebody please consider this. It would be more informative and helpful then a month worth of regular posts. Thanks
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Postby Jeffm351 » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:02 pm

I agree 100% w/ Tooters Bump
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