I have a pretty basic understaning of PLO8, enough to play the game competently, but not enough to be considered 'good' at it. I have spent years learning and 'mastering' hold'em, both lilmit and NL, but my main focus has been NLHE tournies.

I have 7 small buyin PLO8 STT's under my belt per PTO, with an ROI of 128%, 4 ITM's and 3 wins. We will, for now, ignore the insanely small smaple size and the trends this no where near implies. I have though noticed, that in concept, PLO8 STT's are far easier to beat than NLHE.

Maybe thats because I don't know enough PLO8 to get FPS yet? I mainly play small ball NLHE, picking up the little pots, playing lots of small, marginal EV hands for cheap, seeing lots of flops, etc (Ok, I'll go find my thesis on Limp-and-go so that you guys can figure out what I'm talking about), and that doesn't seem to bode well in the STT environment, but does very well in MTT's.

I dunno, guess this is a pretty LC post here.....

I'm pretty sure they're far more profitable. I have 12 $35 PLO8 tournies under my belt, ROI is 78.3%. Mostly because players are pathetically weak ITM and HU that you can just run them over if you have any kind of chipstack. It's a bit of a crapshoot early on but if you just limp a few times and hit big, you can usually double (or even triple) up. I wouldn't be surprised if an ROI of 30% was sustainable in these games. I'll probably add one of these to every set of other SNGs when I play, so I'll report back when I have a (somewhat) more conclusive samplesize, ie 100 or so.

I agree as well. However, my experience is from LIMIT O8 tournaments. My ROI is 75% after 25 of them, they are super-easy. Only problem is that they are so much slower than a Hold'em SnG that I doubt the EV is that much higher. I can usually finish two Hold'ems before one LO8.

I'm sure it is more profitable... but I'm too lazy to learn the game for the moment. The day NL texas online games will die, I'll probably give it a try cause my limit Holdem game is barely profitable.

I entered a 11$ PLO8 STT by mistake last week on Party (huge sample) and I won it easily without feeling I've been lucky or something... if I dont count other player making stupid calls as luck. I had stricly no PLO8 STT or MTT experiance nor cash games BTW.
I simply played the ultra tight Scotty Nguyen Strategy: never leave home without an Ace... and it went very well.

In fact the only experiance I have O8B was something like 5000 .25/.50 hands mostly played on party like 2 years ago. And it was limit. At that time I was obessed about learnig other games. So when I was on tilt I was switching to O8B or S8B.

I definately saw that a few pople had a basic understanding of what they were doing, but mostly, the othe were playing the bingo strategy.

That was profitable, but nothing comparable to NL Texas holdem considering I not an expert myself.

KJ

Chipleader. OR: Crypt Lord; a hero from the expansion pack of Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne.

fwiw, i just played a plo8 SnG at party, and i'm not sure if i agree with your statement about them being easy. it's possible that i misplayed a lot of hands (post later), but it was 400/800 before i went out on the bubble.

people would call pfr with a WIDE range even at hgih blind levels, so you really couldn't accurately assess whether the flop hit them or not. if they had any part of the flop, they weren'\t folding -- that's the good part. the problem with this is that it becomes a card catching exercise.

anyway, it certainly was ridiculously easy to cruise to the bubble, but after that it was tough due to the blind levels and the fact that my opponents were trading chips.

maybe i was unlucky... or maybe i just suck.

Wooo! OK I think I like the Turbo Horse Tourneys better than PLO8. Played two so far, competition is so soft, most of the players can't even play half the games. One one, second the other....