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Your Opinion on a couple of newbie Hands?

Postby UWPg » Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:29 am

Hi,

here 3 Hands from my 1st and 2nd SNG ever.
Could you please comment how you whould have played this hands and why?
I have a Idea what i did wrong and what right in this hands but I won't write it down here now, because I don't want to influence your Answers.


Hand 1)

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: t2449
UWPg: t1800
CO: t5339
Button: t4936
SB: t4296
BB: t1180

Pre-flop: (6 players) UWPg is UTG+1 with [Qd] [Kd]
UTG folds, UWPg calls t200 (pot was t300), CO calls t200 (pot was t500), Button folds, SB calls t100 (pot was t700), BB checks.

Flop: [Ac] [3s] [Tc] (t800, 4 players)
SB bets t200, BB folds, UWPg calls t200 (pot was t1000), CO raises to t400, SB folds, UWPg folds.
Uncalled bets: t200 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: t1400


Hand 2)

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
8 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: t2444
UWPg: t1940
MP1: t5845
MP2: t1800
CO: t1710
Button: t1611
SB: t2710
BB: t1940

Pre-flop: (8 players) UWPg is UTG+1 with [Th] [Ts]
UTG calls t60 (pot was t90), UWPg raises to t180, 6 folds, UTG calls t120 (pot was t330).

Flop: [6c] [9s] [Qh] (t450, 2 players)
UTG checks, UWPg checks.

Turn: [8h] (t450, 2 players)
UTG bets t100, UWPg calls t100 (pot was t550).

River: [7c] (t650, 2 players)
UTG bets t100, UWPg raises all-in t1660, UTG folds.
Uncalled bets: t1560 returned to UWPg.

Results:
Final pot: t850


Hand 3)

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: t5375
UTG+1: t3040
CO: t1571
Button: t2465
SB: t3369
UWPg: t4180

Pre-flop: (6 players) UWPg is BB with [Kc] [Ts]
UTG raises to t300, UTG+1 calls t300 (pot was t450), 3 folds, UWPg raises to t600, UTG calls t200 (pot was t1150), UTG+1 calls t200 (pot was t1350).

Flop: [Tc] [8c] [Qc] (t1850, 3 players)
UWPg bets t1577, UTG calls t1577 (pot was t3427), UTG+1 raises all-in t2540, UWPg calls t963 (pot was t7544), UTG calls t963 (pot was t8507).

Turn: [4h] (t9470, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9470)
UWPg checks, UTG checks.

River: [6c] (t9470, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: t9470)
UWPg is all-in t1140, UTG calls t1140 (pot was t10610).

Results:
Final pot: t11750
UWPg balance 0 lost 4180 Kc Ts
UTG balance 12645 bet 4180 collected 11450 net 7270 Js Ac
UTG+1 balance 0 lost 3040 8s 8d


Thanks A lot!
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Postby Xaston » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:56 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:02 am

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Postby Sunbob » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:13 am

Hand 1: Yech. I hate this situation. KQs is definitely worth playing but you are OOP and only have 9 BB left. When I'm down to six I hate limping, especially from early position. But with only 9BB you are in the all or nothing position. This is one of those very rare situations where a min-raise might be warranted IF a min-raise has been thinning the field on this table. Some tables respect a min-raise and others ignore it.

As played - fold on the flop. It totally missed you. Do not chase the gut-shot.

Hand 2: I'm okay with the 3X raise. No problem with 4, I just use a standard 3X for all my entry bets. On the flop, you are heads up and checked to you. Time for a continuation bet - 300-400. If you are check raised you can decide then. But, bet the flop.

As played - don't push the river. I have been value betting here to build my chip stack. Usually 1/2 to 3/4 pot is good, how about 500 here.

Hand 3: With a raise and call ahead of you - fold - let those two fight it out. Hope that one of them hurts the other real bad. :lol:
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Postby Big_Leon » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:18 am

Without looking at others replies here's my take:

Hand 1 - You are down to 9BB at this point. This is not a time to be limping in, you should be looking to push or fold. Personally I'd push preflop here but I don't have SNGPT here to back up that up with numbers. As played, fold that flop as soon as someone leads out. At best you are drawing to 4 outs on the gut-shot and only 3 of them are clean (1 completes a flush).

Hand 2 - I'd raise a bit more pre-flop once UTG limps in to maybe 250 and then CB (continuation bet) that flop about 95% of the time. CB about 400. As played you won the hand but you are playing with fire checking flop, calling turn, and then pushing river.

Hand 3 - Muck this baby pre-flop. No reason to tangle with the big stack with junk, and K10o is a junk hand.


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Postby HoldemJunkie » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:21 am

Hand#1-Based on your chips situation and table position at the time, I think a fold is in order. Folded to you and you are in the cutoff or button, this is a 100% push (based on stack size). Dont chase the Gut Shot its a complete waste of chips

Hand#2-I agree with these guys, raise to 210 to 240 and probably lead half pot on flop. Two things, you can win it right there and it gets more money in the pot if you are ahead. You pick up double belly buster on turn and you have options there (checking or betting). The river completes your hand and based on the pot you have built, you can 1/3 to 1/2 pot it and get that extra $$$$ out of a poorly played KQ, AQ or two pair hand. I like betting the flop rather than the turn.

Hand#3-Fold preflop, you have plenty of money behind and can find a better spot. There could be an argument made to call out of BB but a flop with that type of texture is a recipe for disaster.
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:25 pm

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Postby HoldemJunkie » Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:43 pm

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Postby GreaterThanU » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:13 am

Hand 1- Don't limp with less than 10 times the BB. Personally I shove. As played...it looks ok. A fold to the first 200 is probably a better play with someone to act behind you. However if he wasn't there...I'd raise...the 200 bet was obvious weakness.

Hand 2- I'd raise more preflop. My normal raise is 4x the BB anyway but in this case there's a limper so I like a little bigger raise. Also I'd probably throw a CB on the flop of about 250-300. But a check is fine I guess. On the turn...once again...I'd probably raise...his 100 bet isn't showin any real strength...and we picked up a double gutter. On the river...you jizzed yourself all-in....we could of got this payed off man...maybe a raise to like 300 would get payed off. Don't ever jizz yourself all-in again.

Hand 3- Fold preflop. We don't play pots out of position with shitty hands.
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Postby UWPg » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:27 am

Thanks a lot for all myour hand Analysis.

They are pretty similar to what I thought when analyzing the hands.

I read HoH1 and am reading HoH2 at the moment. My Problem ist to see all the things
during the Hand. For instance I didn't realized in Hand 1 that I only had 9BB left (Blind raised shortly before). When I look at the hand afterward I see it. But I hope this is just an experience thing and I grow in it.

Thanks again!
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