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How do You Define a Big Pot

Postby Sir_Raise_Alot » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:03 am

In limit holdem the accepted bench mark is to earn one big bet per hour. As a result I considered three big bets (three hours work) a big pot. In No limit Cash Games, what do you all use to define a big po? Do you use a certain number of big blinds? A certain percentage of buy ins? How do you define a Big Pot?
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Postby euri10 » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:32 am

1 max buy in is big no ?
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Re: How do You Define a Big Pot

Postby Zarathustra » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:09 pm

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Postby Rhound50 » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:29 pm

I guess I consider a big pot anything that is bigger than 1 max buy in.
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Postby k3nt » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:11 pm

If it doubles me up or more, it's a big pot.
If it is even half that size, it's a pretty big pot. Is it "big"? I don't know. Depends on the context.

Why does it matter? Is there some important poker concept that applies to "big pots" but not to regular pots?
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Postby TightWad » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:55 pm

Kent,

Actually, there is one concept that comes to mind that differentiates big pots from small pots...I think it applies more to limit, but I think it still has its place in NL.

In limit-speak, I'm referring the idea of "gaining bets when the pot is small" vs "increasing your chances of winning" when the pot is larger. For example, if I flop a set in a heads-up battle of the blinds, I'm going to do everything I can to maximize the value, even if it presents small risks. If I think my opponent can't even call a small bet on the flop, I'll go ahead and check it, giving him a chance to catch up or at least bluff. On the other hand, if I flop a set in a raised 6-way pot, I'll try to bet, raise or check-raise in such a way that I can hopefully eliminate gut-shottish hands, because the pot's already large and I want it!

I think this sorta applies to NL, as well. For example, say you're in the BB with AA...folds to the SB, who raises, and you decide to flat-call. The flop comes up A-T-3, and the SB checks. Now, I'm not a NL expert, so perhaps I'm incorrect, but I'd think the correct play here is to check behind. Yeah, maybe your opponent will hit a gutshot, but right now, the pot's very small, and the most your opponent can have is 4 outs to beat you. Therefore, I think you check and let your opponent catch up a little, or at least bluff at the pot. Winning about 8 big blinds with a set of aces would seem like a waste.

Different scenario; you're in the BB with AA again, but this time, EP raises, two people call, you reraise, and get two callers. Flop comes up A-T-3...now, the pot's got some meat to it, so I think you'd be more inclined to protect your hand.

Hey, I could be wrong with all this...all I'm really trying to say is that the size of the pot does often affect how a hand should be played.

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Postby Sir_Raise_Alot » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:22 am

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Postby Stapher » Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:32 am

If you don't fold the best hand every once in awhile, you're probably not playing your best poker
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Postby Sir_Raise_Alot » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:02 am

Chris, thanks for the post, I think I will on focus that! :D
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