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Postby odogg » Wed May 04, 2005 8:44 am

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Postby McMonkey » Wed May 04, 2005 9:05 am

The title sums it up pretty well. With the K and A out on the board you are obviously pretty happy with the T high flush. The flop bet seems like a semi-bluff on a draw since he just called, and the turn obviously makes both draws. A turn bet may have gotten a little more information, but if he's going all in with the str8 here then he could well have made a similar play on the turn if you had bet and you'd be in the same situation.

But with no other information I think I'd put him on QJ for the str8 or some kind of K (possibly AK), he checked the turn fearing the flush or str8 and was going to check it down, but has now convinced himself that your check on the turn and relatively small river bet are signs of weakness and is trying to push you off the hand. I don't think he can afford to check the river with the Q or J hi flush, and it's an awfully big bet to make with the nuts.

All that combined with how you disguised your hand make it a call, but in the heat of the moment without the time to think it through as thoroughly I might not be too happy about it.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed May 04, 2005 10:20 am

Youre right, I dont like the way you played it, but based on how you did play it, I call here everytime.
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Postby mitcheze » Wed May 04, 2005 10:43 am

i absolutely call here, but a pot sized bet on the turn would have been ideal so you could avoid situations such as the one you got yourself into by checking. if he had a hand like QJ with one spade he would have been willing to play for his stack (based on his river action). i still call the river check-raise and hope he doesnt have me out-flushed.
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Postby odogg » Wed May 04, 2005 12:15 pm

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Postby Troyxx » Wed May 04, 2005 4:49 pm

And now if only you could just post his SN, and playing times! :D
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Postby palman » Wed May 04, 2005 10:11 pm

His play wasn't that bad. He reasonably thought you'd bet out on the turn with the flush, which most of the time is correct. For the same reason you hate your check in position is the same reason he can't push you off the flush. Now he can't reasonably have the flush either, since he woulda bet out with it on the river, but he's hoping you don't know that, and fold your A or 2 pair, etc. (which is your most reasonable holding)
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Postby Rhound50 » Wed May 04, 2005 11:56 pm

Ok so I got caught bluffing no need to tell people how bad a player I am. As was said before I dont like the way you played this hand at all, there is nothing that really makes your hand stronger and a lot of cards that make it weaker. Of course it worked here since you confused the hell out of this guy and he thought you were stealing.
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