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How's my play in this common situation?

Postby kennyg » Thu May 05, 2005 1:06 am

Anyone just call the flop bet? Like my raise?? How about the bet on the turn and just the slow "call" on the river. (full house scared the crap out of me.) All thoughts welcome.

1/2 NL

No read on opponent. Hasn't done anything significantly stupid. We both have right around $200.

Dealt [Ad][Tc] on the button. Min raised by my opponent in EP. Lots of people come in...i join the ride.


FLOP $22
[2d] [9d] [Qd]

EP (opponent and preflop raiser) bets $2. LOL yeah..$2. MP players raises to $6. haha..love these guys. Folded to me. I raise to $25 for a couple of reasons.
#1. weak betting pisses me off.
#2. I might take it down.
#3. The pot will be big if someone calls and I hit.
#4. My hand will be disguised.

Anyway.. both guys call. I know I'm up against some monsters now.

TURN $95
[2d] [9d] [Qd] [3d]

yay nut flush!. Both opponents check. I feel one of them is probably drawing to a full house with QQ or the like. I decide to make a big bet here...to make it look like a bluff and to make it costly to draw out on me. I bet $70. Only the preflop min. raiser calls.

RIVER $235.50
[2d] [9d] [Qd] [3d] [3c]

yikes. The full house hit. Opponent bets $25.50 into the enourmous pot. He only has $50 left. After a long time I opt just to call because I really feel he has QQ.

Results later.


So what do you guys think?
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Postby thaninja » Thu May 05, 2005 1:22 am

Hi KennyG,

I think the call was correct here... you obviously can't fold and he either has K diamonds, or a he flopped a set and you are hooped. After all of that aggression, the fact that he bets at you on the river means he made his hand and that you might as well see he cards as cheaply as possible. I wouldn't raise here - definite call.

I agree with QQ, or Kx suited and he flopped the flush and doesn't think you have the Ace.

I am working on my aggression...is a reraise like this pretty standard?

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Postby Bob314 » Thu May 05, 2005 1:35 am

I really don't think this guy has a K high flush. Check-call a huge bet and then bet into Kenny on the river? It is obvious that Kenny likes his hand so I don't see how a K high flush expects to get paid by waiting for the river as opposed to check-raising the turn. It feels like a crying call but you've gotta make it with the pot being as big as it is.
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Postby Rhound50 » Thu May 05, 2005 1:44 am

Kenny I like your play a lot, for a couple of reasons. 1 you give yourself the chance to win the pot without having to hit, and at this point all you have is a draw. 2.If you miss the turn you will often get yourself a free card. I like the bet on the turn, to many people check here thinking they wont get action if they bet. And finally I think the call on the river here is the right call. I dont understand your opponants play, the small bet seems more like a blocking bet than a made full house, this leads me to believe he has a lower flush and was hoping a weak bet would let him get to showdown wihout putting his whole stack in. I think your ahead here, if he did make a boat on the river, he pushs all in, why weak lead into this pot, he doent have enough behind him that you are going to fold to his all-in. If you both hads $2000 behind it would be a different strory.
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Postby kennyg » Thu May 05, 2005 10:17 am

Good thinking Rhound. I just couldn't decide at the time....so I called. I took down the pot when he showed an overpair


He held [Kd][Kc]..which for some reason I never thought of...but made sense after the hand. He played it very poorly.
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Postby kennyg » Thu May 05, 2005 10:26 am

Actually..I couldn't figure out if it was a blocking bet or a value bet. Also I figured if he had the [Kd][ or the [Jd]..he probably wouldn't call anyway. I believe my thinking was flawed here.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu May 05, 2005 1:58 pm

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Postby k3nt » Thu May 05, 2005 3:11 pm

Agree with Iceman, as usual. Wow.

Every time I read about a hand like this, I feel like I need to get a bigger bankroll (and a good psychologist to help me through the ups and downs) and move up real fast. I just expect people to play so much better when $200 is at stake. Guess not....

Kenny, I agree it is a common situation. And I'm glad you played it like this, because I made a similar play the other day on a 3-flush board. I had the 2nd-nut flush draw and top pair on the turn -- I bet full pot to chase people out because I couldn't believe anybody had actually flopped the flush when the flop bet was $1 into a $6 pot with 6 people seeing the flop. The only guy who called my turn bet had a baby flush. He wasn't trying to protect it from the 4th flush card at all, just calling whatever anybody bet. Of course the 4th flush card didn't come for me, but the opponent just checked it down on the river anyway.
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Postby k3nt » Thu May 05, 2005 3:11 pm

Agree with Iceman, as usual. Wow.

Every time I read about a hand like this, I feel like I need to get a bigger bankroll (and a good psychologist to help me through the ups and downs) and move up real fast. I just expect people to play so much better when $200 is at stake. Guess not....

Kenny, I agree it is a common situation. And I'm glad you played it like this, because I made a similar play the other day on a 3-flush board. I had the 2nd-nut flush draw and top pair on the turn -- I bet full pot to chase people out because I couldn't believe anybody had actually flopped the flush when the flop bet was $1 into a $6 pot with 6 people seeing the flop. The only guy who called my turn bet had a baby flush. He wasn't trying to protect it from the 4th flush card at all, just calling whatever anybody bet. Of course the 4th flush card didn't come for me, but the opponent just checked it down on the river anyway.
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