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I'm not getting paid of with my sets

Postby Kalle » Thu May 05, 2005 3:32 am

$400NL.

Unknown raises to $15 in EP. I'm the only caller in BB with JJ. We both have $400. Flop is JTx two clubs. I bet $25 into $30 pot. EP calls. Turn is a king. I bet $50. He folds.

I thought that if I checked the turn he would bet, but I really wanted his stack and if I checkraised he could get away from AA, AK without investing much.
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Postby excession » Thu May 05, 2005 6:44 am

400NL.

Unknown raises to $15 in EP. I'm the only caller in BB with JJ. We both have $400. Flop is JTx two clubs. I bet $25 into $30 pot. EP calls. Turn is a king. I bet $50. He folds.

I thought that if I checked the turn he would bet, but I really wanted his stack and if I checkraised he could get away from AA, AK without investing much.



Once I hit top set in EP egainst a guy who had been the pre-flop raiser, I would check his post-flop agression stat. Anything over 1.5 and I'm check/calling. I want him to bet into me all the way and I will lead into him on river the maximum I think he'll call.

Of course this is going to be quite scary on the turn (that King looks nasty) but inducing the bluff is the only way you are going to get a big part of his stack unless he has hit the flop too..

By the time of the turn he is losing to AA,KK,QQ, JJ,TT,AK,AQ or AJ - he has to put you on one of them -unless he is on an Ax flush draw what is he going to have that he can even think about calling you with?

Just because you hit top set don't mean you will get paid off big - he needs to have hit something too - and it doesn't look like he did.
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Postby k3nt » Thu May 05, 2005 3:17 pm

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Postby poker2006 » Thu May 05, 2005 3:27 pm

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Postby Suhleafs » Thu May 05, 2005 3:28 pm

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Postby rdale » Thu May 05, 2005 6:24 pm

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Postby Bob314 » Thu May 05, 2005 6:59 pm

I think you are giving your opponent WAY too much credit for a hand here. First off he raised preflop from EP and then didn't raise on a semi-coordinated board on the flop but called your nearly-pot bet. There is no way I'm putting this person on A-K or A-Q playing like that unless you think they are terrible--and then why would you give them credit for a real hand (not to say they can't have one sometimes) anyways no matter what position they are raising from? The fact of the matter is that sets can be cracked like anything else and you aren't always going to get someone's stack--that's why you need your opponent to have 20 times the size of the bet you are calling to have good implied odds. You lead into your opponent to disguise your hand (though they are probably more likely to raise a 1/2 pot bet or something that looks probing/weakish) and then the board was getting pretty dangerous on the turn. Sucks that your opponent didn't hit a piece of it that you had dominated, but hey, you still got some pretty good money out of the hand and didn't get your premium cards cracked so chill out =)
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Postby kennyg » Fri May 06, 2005 12:31 am

Our opponents always forget to throw in that flop raise when we hit a set.
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