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Suited connectors: specific table strategy

Postby Aisthesis » Thu May 12, 2005 4:22 pm

What I'm interested in here is how to play suited connectors at a loose-passive table, which I really think should be a great place to play them. I'd be interested in some experience values here, of which I already have some but not enough yet at this kind of game.

For the moment, I think I'm only going to play them for a limp. The table's too soft to get involved with anything high risk, although admittedly, they don't protect their hands in raised pots either, so I may have to change my opinion. But, for the moment, I just want to take it real slow and easy.

Ok, here's my basic strategy for 76s at this table (please critique). I'll limp on this, I think, from any MP or LP position--just not EP, again, would like to avoid any leaks here. AXs I think I'm only messing with in LP, but will play similarly. Actually, AXs may turn out better here because these guys like to chase flushes, so hitting the flush will win big time against a lower one. KXs might also be considered at this table (opinions?).

Let's say 8 players, with 5 including me, seeing the flop. So, we now have a $5 pot. I'll just assume the straight draw with a flop of K54. (K58 will work the same, but I think I'd rather avoid K89 because of the risk at such a table that some joker is trying his luck with JT there, taking away some critical outs).

In position on the bettor, I think I'm raising hard right there (pot plus double the bet). My plan here is to check the turn if I miss but bet fairly hard if I hit. I think the real money here is going to come from hitting the turn, actually, and I'm thinking full pot is a good bet there. I've got the free card, and I'm not sure about the river. I'm rather thinking that it would be worth it to just bet full pot there, too, although I think they'll fold.

Out of position, I think a similar checkraise is the way to go.

You know, actually, for the moment all of these plays are -EV the way this table plays. I think I need to warm them up first by checkraising some sets and then switch it up once I get them in the habit of folding. The table is actually not really that passive on the flop, when I think about it. They just don't adjust their bets to the size of the pot.

One thing about B&M that I can already say after this one very successful night. You end up (at least here) playing with a bunch of regulars who really do remember how you played various hands. It's just so much easier to remember B&M rather than online because of the full experience of joking around, seeing the players, etc. And you also know you'll see them again--not the case at lower stakes online, and there's such a huge crowd that, with few exceptions for noticeably good players, I only really "remember" due to my player notes.

This is definitely going to be a lot of fun... :)

I think stage 1 is getting them to fold anything but a monster whenever I bet, stage 2 is hitting them with semi-bluffs, then betting out sets rather than checkraising them. Any comments?

The cool thing about this whole deal is the switch from online to B&M, which I find very interesting indeed. And there are other particulars here, as it's going to be a game of playing against regulars.

There's also a definite table leak in that they raise and call loosely but are then incapable of protecting hands in raised pots. I'll have to retract my "complete loose-passive" statement because their standard bet does protect their hand on the flop at least in an unraised pot.
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Postby Oksooner » Thu May 12, 2005 4:50 pm

Hell, I cant even beat represent.
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Re: Suited connectors: specific table strategy

Postby rdale » Thu May 12, 2005 4:51 pm

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Postby Yogadude » Thu May 12, 2005 6:07 pm

Ok, here's my basic strategy for 76s at this table (please critique).<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Limping with this hand from MP is trouble unless you have at least 2 callers in front of you. 76suited is proven to be an unprofitable hand from almost any position. Personally I like to play suited connectors that are at least 10 high and then only from the last 3 holes.

In position on the bettor, I think I'm raising hard right there (pot plus double the bet).<<<<<<<<

I dont like that play much. Against a large field you should play draws passively., checking and calling only if the price is right. Problem with your hand is that you need to hit your straight and can not win by simply pairing one of your hole cards. If you had KQ on a J 10 3 flop then you at least have a chance to win if K or Q hits.


>>>>>>>>You know, actually, for the moment all of these plays are -EV the way this table plays. I think I need to warm them up first by checkraising some sets and then switch it up once I get them in the habit of folding. The table is actually not really that passive on the flop, when I think about it. They just don't adjust their bets to the size of the pot. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,

It seems like you are thinking too hard here. Making image plays against these types of players is a mistake. Better to play super tight at the get-go and wait for them to make a mistake against you. This will also enable you to steal the small unwanted pots more easily. The check-raise is a tool I hardly ever use in NL. You can decide the size of the bet for yourself by leading for that amount. The check-raise is better used in limit poker where you need to knock out players to protect your hand.
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