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Postby deadmoney312 » Thu May 19, 2005 9:06 am

.5/$1 NL...no reads

I was dealt a pair of 2's in MP. a guy in EP raises $2 and i call the $2. a guy in LP raises to $6. First question, should I pay the extra $4 to play my 2's? Pot is $15 before I call the $4.

I do make the call and the flop comes down 9H, 8S, 2C. EP checks, I check, LP bets $14. EP folds. Question #2, what is the appropriate bet I make here. I have $70, LP has $98. The bet I did make was $28, should I have bet more?

The next card is an Ac. I'm first to act and I bet $15. Question 3, what should I have done in this position. My $15 runs him off. It turned out he had JJ.

I'm new to the forum and appreciate all the insight. Just looking for pointers on this type of situation. Thanks.
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Postby briachek » Thu May 19, 2005 11:24 am

First off, we need stack sizes in order to know if you should call or not after the reraise preflop. With one other caller and both of you having decent stacks, you should call.

On the flop, I would lead into the raiser hoping that he would raise me thinking I'm betting a 9 or something. Once he raises me, I make a big reraise or smooth call if I know he will be out the turn, but probably raise. I am willing to go all in here if he keeps pushing or our stacks aren't deep enough because he reeks of a overpair.

If you go for the check raise, I wouldn't min raise him because that is often the sign of a monster which this is. I would have made it $40. I would then bet about 2/3 the pot on the turn if he's still in and pay of AA if he hit his trips on the turn.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu May 19, 2005 11:33 am

I play small pairs about 50% of the time in a raised pot, for exactly this occasion... you won't hit often, and you can get away relatively cheap if you don't, but if you do, you have a good chance to take his stack...

With a pretty uncoordinated board, I probably would've just called the flop and waited to take more on the turn... Especially if you're out of position, if you raise the flop, you're gonna have to bet out the turn, and it could scare him off.. The only thing that killed your action was the ace to his jacks... any lower card (probably even a queen), and he bets into you again, and you can raise the turn...

Sucky turn card for you, as EVERYONE is afraid of aces...

BTW... I would've raised the flop if the board was more coordinated (ie... 2 to a flush...)...
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Postby DaHitDogg » Thu May 19, 2005 11:42 am

I'm going to answer your questions in the context of what you knew at the time.

Q1- Depends on the stack sizes as Briachek says, if the two opponents are both short then you should probably muck, normal sizes then I would probably play

Q2- First off, I am going to lead into the raiser about 75% of the time here. You checked and he bet $14. You need to make a raise that commits him to the pot if he calls and possibly tempts him to push. I'd say about $40 to $45. You do this for two reasons. First, you are almost certain to have the strongest hand and want to get him committed with a loser. Second, if he has Jacks or Queens (as he did) then an Ace or a King on the turn is going to kill your action if he isn't committed by this point. Yes, this could cost you the $14 min-raise that he called, but as one of my favorite songs says,"Fvck the slice I want the pie!"

Q3- Not really much you can do here. I would just push and hope that he thinks you are an aggro maniac and trying to bluff him. The $15 is too small and just looks like you are milking him.
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Postby Aisthesis » Thu May 19, 2005 3:02 pm

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Postby shamdonk » Sat May 21, 2005 11:58 am

I agree with Aisthesis here, you have to bet into the re-raiser by betting the pot or about 4/5 of it.
This is a perfect oppurtunity to put pressure on JJ because whose to say you arent playing suited connectors and betting your straight draw? JJ will have to raise in this situation if he takes you for that, which leads to you having the chance to put all the money in on the flop.
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