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Postby stoni1234 » Sat May 21, 2005 10:51 pm

I'm looking for some help with my game and what to shoot for on pokertracker stats? I'm probably a break even player at best, and consider myself weak. Could I possibly give u some stats from 4600 hands on pokertracker and get some analysis? Thanx Iceman for any help
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Postby HopyMSU » Sat May 21, 2005 11:07 pm

I'll look at em if ya post em...sure others will too?

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Postby stoni1234 » Sat May 21, 2005 11:23 pm

thanx Andy

.25/.50 NL stats- 3426 hands
VP$IP-16.27
VP$I FROM SB-31.56
folded sb to steal-86.67
foldedbb to steal-80.95
Att. to steal blinds-9.15
won $ wsf- 31.55
ammt. won- $228.48
BB/100 hands-4.16
went to SD - 64.71
PF raise - 4.10

a little history. I won $2k in first 2 months of 05'(thought I was great). since then I have just been sitting at that $2k with some swings +or- $400.

I also tried higher limits up to $1/$2 (not good for my little bankroll)

thanx in advance for any advice
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Postby APerfect10 » Sat May 21, 2005 11:42 pm

went to SD - 64.71 :shock:

I hope that is a typo. If not, then that is your problem. You are a calling station/showdown muppet. You should be going to SD 20% or less and winning anywhere from 53-58% at showdown.

Btw, your aggression numbers on each street as well as your total post flop aggression would be extremely helpful....
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Postby stoni1234 » Sun May 22, 2005 8:18 am

the numbers are wrong. Please excuse my ignorance.

.25/.50 NL- 3426 hands

VP$IP-16.84
VP$I FROM SB-32.54
folded SB to steal-80.0
BB -81.25
att. to steal-11.11
won$ WSF- 32.31
$ WON - $228.48
BB/100- 6.67
Went to SD- 25.0
won $ st SD-66.67
PF Raise- 4.61

Poss. actions- 5224
raise-3.92
bet-7.01
call-12.12
check-17.30
fold-59.40

flop-2.86
turn-2.09
rvr-2.53
total-2.53
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Postby stoni1234 » Sun May 22, 2005 8:38 am

one more thing I forgot. I didn't include preflop aggression in those #'s.
preflop is- .35
total.-.90

when included. big difference
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Postby excession » Sun May 22, 2005 10:40 am

my guess is that vP$Ip 16 and pfr 4% makes you too easy to read

you raise AA.KK QQ JJ and AK right? anything else? maybe AQ and TT from LP

you also don't play suited aces or suited connectors?

considering that you only have 16% Vp$ip you aren't aggressive enough post-flop - my figures are higher and I have a Vp$iP of about 27%...and I'm not the most aggressive here..

W$SD of 66% in alosing player means that you are likely foldiing winning hands too much too..

life on these tables, where muppets play second pair like a set and overcards like TPTK can be frustrating if you are trying to play ABC like the books suiggest

on a $100 tables at at UB it would be suicidal to keep piutting your stack on the line with TPTK, at Party $25's it's probably +EV

you need to adapt to your surroundings - and play the players as well as the cards - that's how to become a winning player
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Postby stoni1234 » Sun May 22, 2005 11:11 am

thanx for the comments Andy, U pegged me pretty good. I will play Axs for a small raise
and I give up on suited connectors due to catching top pair and losing with a bad kicker.
I also got nailed a few times hitting the flush against someone with a "real flush".
thanx again for your time. I'll give it a few weeks and try your suggestions.
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Postby excession » Sun May 22, 2005 1:21 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Sun May 22, 2005 1:47 pm

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Postby stoni1234 » Sun May 22, 2005 4:41 pm

can't tell u how much I value your imput guys. I have about 100 posts I would like to discuss. I'll keep it to a minimum as to not waste your time. thanx again
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Postby Stoneburg » Sun May 22, 2005 5:03 pm

I'm not an expert at all but I would really recommend you playing suited connectors more. They are really the big winners in NL together with the pairs. Sets (boats), straights and flushes are the hands that tend to win big pots.

I'd much rather see a raised flop with 76s than Axs, since my Ace is probably no good. Also, 76s is easy to release when you miss the flop as well as hard for opponents to pick up on. You just have to be able to throw away the pairs you make with them, you're in it for straights/flushesh, or possibly two-pairs/trips depending on the board.
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Postby excession » Sun May 22, 2005 5:22 pm

ice - i know you're not easy to read -

my hunch was that was a reason stoni was losing and as I guessed his limped and raised pre-flop hands correctly from his stats this is probabl right

if my language was sloppy and implied that all players with those stats are easy to read then I apologise..
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Postby iceman5 » Sun May 22, 2005 5:31 pm

No biggie. Like I said, what you said probably DOES apply to him. I just wanted to point out that youcan only tell so much just by looking at stats.
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Postby laynegt » Sun May 22, 2005 9:54 pm

stoni, you're getting some (constructive) criticism for it, but honestly, i don't see anything wrong w/ playing straightforward poker at the $50 nl level...that is, only raising AQ/JJ+, playing all pocket pairs, and staying away from other marginal hands except in position. You should be able to win playing like that. Sure you're not gonna exactly set the poker world on fire, but nothing wrong w/ playing solid, winning poker. There has got to be another leak or two somewhere that is causing you to only break even given you're playing solid starting hands. Might I suggest posting some of those hands you want to post.
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