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Postby iceman5 » Mon May 23, 2005 10:30 am

Well, first of all, I wouldnt have min raised 33, so that throws off my reads for the rest of the hand.
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Postby briachek » Mon May 23, 2005 10:35 am

He hadn't done anything like this before this hand. The fact that he min raised preflop was my first clue that my read on him was off. I don't know of any solid player that min raises preflop.
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Postby iceman5 » Mon May 23, 2005 10:38 am

I wouldve played for my stack just like you did. My response was to the question of how I would play the 33 if I knew you were a solid BTPer and you were pushing that flop so hard.

i woudnt have min raised 33 UTG so that throws off my read of what you wouldve had.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Mon May 23, 2005 11:18 am

What are the odds of trips over trips...? I'm pretty sure they're not very good, and still probably can't lay that down on this board... He could just as easily have AQ or 2pr... Unless it was Ice, or some kind of ubertight BTPer... I still wouldn't lay it down...
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Postby briachek » Mon May 23, 2005 11:34 am

All I'm saying that on that board and I reraise a raiser after limping preflop, you would should fold. Against me, you will be drawing to 1 out 99% of the time.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Mon May 23, 2005 11:44 am

I'm not saying it's not a good laydown... obviously is was... I'm just saying it's one that I'm probably not good enough to do...
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Postby Rhound50 » Mon May 23, 2005 11:58 am

We are missing one major point here, preflop. His play should tell you he is not a good player, a min raise from ep preflop is an automatic for me that he is not a good player, this is a play that a lot of bad players make with AA, KK, QQ and small PP to try to build a pot. With this read on him I would say he has QQ the same amount of times he has 33, so that ev calculation is break even. The way he played this preflop, I am guessing he makes the same play with AA or KK, which is great for you, all in every time and you make money.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Mon May 23, 2005 12:04 pm

I agree... the amount of times he'll have QQ and 33 wash out, plus whenever he would have basically ANYTHING else pushes this into +ev to me...
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