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Postby briachek » Tue May 31, 2005 7:09 pm

some is bragging, some for analysis.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (9 handed)

UTG+1 ($52.7)
MP1 ($45.47)
MP2 ($25.15)
MP3 ($47.4)
CO ($46.75)
Hero ($46.25)
SB ($50)
BB ($99.55)
UTG ($46.4)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Ks], [Ad].
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) [Kd], [Kc], [Ac] (8 players)
SB checks, BB folds, UTG bets $1, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1, CO folds, Hero calls $1, SB calls $1.

Turn: ($8) [Jc] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $5, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $15, SB raises to $35, UTG raises to $44.9 (All-In), Hero calls $29.75 (All-In), SB calls $9.90.

River: ($142.55) [7c] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $142.55

Results in white below:
UTG has Js Jd (full house, jacks full of kings).
Hero has Ks Ad (full house, kings full of aces).
SB has Jh Kh (full house, kings full of jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $142.25. SB wins $0.30.


I know some people are gonna say I should have raised preflop but with that many callers, I would have had to raise to $5 to get people to fold. Anyway, in this case, not raising got me great 3 way action. If I had raised, the KJ might have folded pf (although he was a very LAG guy). With that flop after my raise, checking it would seem suspicious and betting anything would have gotten the JJ guy to fold. I don't think I've seen something like this before. All 4 jacks and all 4 kings were out there.
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Postby Yogadude » Tue May 31, 2005 7:28 pm

"know some people are gonna say I should have raised preflop but with that many callers, I would have had to raise to $5 to get people to fold. Anyway, in this case, not raising got me great 3 way action. If I had raised, the KJ might have folded pf (although he was a very LAG guy). With that flop after my raise, checking it would seem suspicious and betting anything would have gotten the JJ guy to fold. I don't think I've seen something like this before. All 4 jacks and all 4 kings were out there."

I understand why you dont want to raise before the flop with this hand as it will make the pot big and you only have a drawing hand -BUT, I think you should raise almost every single time with this hand pre-flop..you have position and a hand that is vulnerable to any 2 cards...dont let the results fool you - limping in late position with AK is a mistake in my opinion

BUT, nice pot! cripes, it's been a while since i got one like this....enjoy the spoils of war

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Postby Jeffm351 » Tue May 31, 2005 7:56 pm

Congrats! I had a very simular flop for AK a few days ago, I had raised preflop w/ AK in LP, got 1 caller.. flop came [Ah] [Ad] [Ks].. didnt think I would get any action... flop was check/check turn was a [Qh] and opponent bet the pot I called, river was a blank, opponent bets the pot, I raised, he pushed all-in... couldnt believe my luck... then he shows AK for the split... !@#$% we made $1.50 ea on that pot... :lol:
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Postby briachek » Tue May 31, 2005 11:08 pm

you probably lost money from the rake if your bets were big enough.

I have a question about both my opponents play in this hand. Do you fault them at all for how they played or were they both just gonna lose their stacks after that flop?
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Tue May 31, 2005 11:45 pm

UTG should've raised PF... He must have been crappin a brick when he saw 7 others limp in the hand w/ him... Then, if he's gonna try to steal the pot on that scary board w/ his JJ, he should raise a hell of a lot more than $1...

Can't really fault SB either... I won't normally play KJ in EP, but in the small blind, with no one raising, I guess it's worth it... And, after he trips the flop, he's stuck... I probably would've bet it out, though...

One question... why did you raise the turn...? You had the nuts, as long as someone wasn't slowplaying AA (and even I don't have that kind of bad luck)... I mean, it worked out for you, but when the 3rd flush card comes, you may have chased away one or two of the bettors afraid of the flush...
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Postby briachek » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:15 am

As Ice has said, you have to make it a big pot to win a big pot. If no one had caught enough of that board by the turn, I wasn't gonna get any action later. His $5 bet on the turn after his $1 bet on the flop made it look like he caught. I thought he had the flush. I wasn't worried about AA but for some reason, if I was beat, I thought it would be to QTc.

A few hands earlier, I saw someon flop the nut straight with JT and slowplayed it to the river and won a $6 pot. That is just a waste. I will take the chance to win a $50+ pot than play slower and win a few extra $6-8 pots.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:21 am

Okay okay... you don't have to bite my head off... I was just askin... :D
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Postby briachek » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:22 am

:P Whatever Iceman says should be followed. He came down from the mountain with Ten Commandments from the Poker Gods like Moses.

1. Min raise = monster
2. To win a big pot, you have to make it a big pot
3. Playing poker poolside is so cool
4. TW is has a small (*&(*^%%
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and so on. I wasn't really paying attention.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:30 am

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Postby Jeffm351 » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:05 am

whos Iceman? I thought he was the Janitor.... :wink:
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Postby briachek » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:25 am

The guy is the only one with more posts than me. I read them to learn the secret of getting my post numbers up.
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Postby devilmollusk » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:56 am

The only reason to limp AK there is to try and trap a smaller ace. However you are really vulberable to aggressive play in that scenario because you have to fear just about any flop but the one you got. I almost never limp AK in position. I would rather isolate against hands like AJ and AQ than let some schmuck with 62o into the pot.

Also you totally remove the bluffing potential of AK. If you raise and the flop comes ragged you can still take down the pot with a decent sized bet if no one hit. That way you win more over the long run with AK than you would waiting for the perfect flop.

Still, congrats on getting the perfect flop and getting paid off.
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