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Postby poker2006 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:49 pm

Three interesting hands I would appreciate comments on.

-------------------- Hand 1:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed)

MP1 ($75.45)
MP2 ($51.8)
Hero ($58.06)
Button ($47.75)
SB ($42.5)
BB ($101.92)
UTG ($50.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [9c], [9h]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) [9s], [6c], [5c] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 bets $2, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $5, BB folds, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($14) [6s] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3.

River: ($20) [8s] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $30, Hero raises to $48, SB calls $4 (All-In).

Final Pot: $102

Results in white below:
Hero has 9c 9h (full house, nines full of sixes).
SB has 5s 7s (straight flush, nine high).
Outcome: SB wins $88. Hero wins $14.


On the turn I was trying to slowplay, hoping he would get the flush or the straight, whatever he was drawing to. How would you have played the hand differently at any point?

-------------------- Hand 2:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed)

MP3 ($66.35)
CO ($59)
Button ($60.4)
SB ($56.47)
BB ($48.35)
UTG ($76.98)
Hero ($80.1)
MP1 ($51.55)
MP2 ($54.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [Ac], [As]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds.

Flop: ($16.75) [6h], [5h], [7h] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, MP2 calls $3, MP3 folds, CO calls $3.

Turn: ($25.75) [Ah] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $6, CO calls $6, Hero calls $6.

River: ($43.75) [4d] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $15, Hero folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $58.75

Results in white below:
CO doesn't show.
Outcome: CO wins $58.75.


Do you bet this flop even just 1/5 pot? Do you call the turn bet?

-------------------- Hand 3:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

UTG+1 ($17.25)
UTG+2 ($50.3)
MP1 ($66.98)
MP2 ($52.1)
MP3 ($50.65)
CO ($48.9)
Button ($28.3)
SB ($12.36)
BB ($33.92)
Hero ($66.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Jh], [Ah]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $2, 4 folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.75) [4h], [4s], [Kh] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $2, CO calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50.

Turn: ($12.75) [3h] (3 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG+1 calls $3, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $3, UTG+1 calls $10.25 (All-In), CO calls $7.25, Hero raises to $25, CO raises to $36.75, Hero calls $11.75.

River: ($99.50) [Td] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero calls $25.60 (All-In), CO calls $8.15 (All-In).

Final Pot: $133.25

Results in white below:
Hero has Jh Ah (flush, ace high).
UTG+1 has Kc Kd (full house, kings full of fours).
CO has 4c 4d (four of a kind, fours).
Outcome: CO wins $115.80. Hero wins $17.45.


Anyone able to get away from this hand, or loose less? Funny during this hand I remembered sklanskys advice not to chase on a paired board. How would you have played the nut flush in this case.
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Postby JJSCOTT2 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:14 pm

Hand 1: I think you played this fine, personally I may raise a little more on the flop to take away the odds if the guy was leading a flush draw, but from the turn on, I don't play it any different. Don't let yourself get frustrated by hands like these, they will happen, it's just a fact of the game.

Hand 2: This hand is interesting, getting that much action open-raising to $4 pre-flop is crazy, but good. Your mistake here is on the flop, you've got to bet much much more here especially because of the co-ordination of the board. If a pot sized bet gets called you can pretty much bet on someone having the Kh or the made flush and you can proceed from there. On the turn I don't mind your call because adding it up it seems like you were just about getting odds to fill up and adding the implied odds I would have probabaly called also.

Hand 3: I generally don't like calling pre-flop raises with AJ, suited or otherwise and generally I wouldn't even limp AJs UTG because of the high probability of being raised out, but then again, I am ultra-tight and this may not be your game plan. Moving on to the flop. You simply cannot put yourself in a position to go broke with a non-full house hand on a paired board, if I had got this far with the hand, I'm probabaly getting rid of it here.
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Postby Rhound50 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:44 pm

Hand 1 just sucks, there is no reason to expect to be behind on that board, you got what you wanted, you got him to hit his flush on a paired board instead he hit the 1 out that kills you. One outters to beat top boat always hurt but you played this hand right.

Hand 2 With the amount of your preflop raise, you underbet the flop, if you are willing to fire out a bet when the 4th heart hits (the fact that it makes you trips is pretty useless), than you should have bet more on the flop, the small bet does a couple of things, it gives your opponant odds to draw at his flush and also gives your opponant information that you might be weak, after you check the river he knows your weak.

Hand 3: Like JJ said I hate calling raises with AJ to start with, this call only gets you trapped into a hand you dont want to be in to begin with. His play on both the flop and the turn should give you clues that you should note. At this level player like to look weak when they are strong. He bets $.50 after making a decent sized raise preflop. Then on the turn, when you bet he min raises this should scream stregnth to you. With a realitvely small pot there is no reason you should draw to a flush on a paired board. There is nothing worse than drawing to a drawing dead hand.
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Postby briachek » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:48 pm

Hand 1: bad beat there. However, I bet that turn harder. At least half the pot size. I want to get all his money so I need to make it expensive for him without scaring him off. He hits his one out but nothing you can do.

Hand 2: My feeling is either don't bet that small or don't bet. You need to make a real raise because you are asking to be raised off that hand. The turn is fine since he gives you odds to fill and the river is a good fold as it looks like a milking bet.

Hand 3: I don't like AJ too much, especially UTG and if I call a raise with it and lose my stack, I feel I deserved it. I fold preflop and probably don't even try to limp. That flop action after a raise preflop just seems fishy but I've seen people play a King that way so calling is not that bad. However, the turn should be sending up red flags. All that action (including a min raise) I will probably fold. I definitely don't raise. He then min raised your reraise. 2 min raises! unless he is a TOTAL moron, you are drawing dead.
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