I got TPTK and the nut flush draw... Is that worth staying in the hand...? On the flop, I was pretty sure I was good... By the turn, I was having doubts, but I was getting about 2:1 on my money, and my Aces still may have been holding up...


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (8 handed)

Button ($72.90)
SB ($50.15)
Hero ($83.35)
UTG ($22.75)
UTG+1 ($5.20)
MP1 ($45.05)
MP2 ($20.80)
CO ($44.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , . MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $2, 3 folds, SB raises to $7, Hero calls $6.50, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($16.50) , , (2 players)
SB bets $16.5, Hero calls $16.50.

Turn: ($49.50) (2 players)
SB bets $26.65 (All-In), Hero calls $26.65.

River: ($102.80) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $102.80

I might have folded this hand preflop...depending on my read of the player.


On the flop...I think you should go ahead and push it in. I like to be aggressive with these type of hands..he might even fold an AK. I'm curious to see what he had. If he had KK or QQ then he really played this hand poorly.

I just think you played that monster flop a little to passively.

Actually...this might be one of those rare instances where only a better hand calls you. I still lean toward being aggressive though... What does everyone else think?

Hmmmmm...

Unless it's a very loose re-raiser (JJ/QQ or worse), I doubt I'd see the flop here--pretty much in line with Kenny's analysis. Anyhow, I'd have to have some kind of read in order to see the flop here, although AA/KK become less likely, admittedly. If it's a loose raiser capable of laying down, coming over the top is also an option to be considered, I think. Basically, PF, you've got a full 6 instances each of JJ and QQ, 9 instances of AK, and 3 each of AA/KK, then lots of instances of complete trash as well. I think I'd have to have SB somewhere in my "maniac" box just to make the flat call, anyway (if you flat call and hit, it's going to be very hard to make JJ-KK pay you anything otherwise).

In actuality, I think the re-raiser probably has AK of some sort (maybe also JJ, and I guess there's still one instance of AA out there, too). If he's halfway sane, I can't see him going that far out on a limb with KK or QQ. I mean, what on earth does he think you're calling a re-raise and then a flop bet with?

So, all things considered, I don't really mind the flat call on the flop. JJ and AA certainly aren't laying down, and probably not AK either. KK and QQ might think you're drawing to the flush and bet the turn again (so, I suppose that's a reason why those hands might have continued on the turn). But KK and QQ only have 2 outs anyway. And I think you really want AK to continue on the turn because your AK is a much better one here--it's either a split pot or you win.

The only real problem with the flat call is if the turn pairs the board and he has AA or JJ (although if he has either of those hands, it's also much less likely for the board to pair), so, I don't know, I guess if you do see the flop, raising him to all-in right there isn't a bad play either. I think I'd probably go with the flat call still, but then the real question becomes whether or not you're going to proceed if the board pairs on the turn. I'd have a lot of trouble laying it down at that stage, as deep as you're into it. But I'd also hate to be drawing dead to the flush... perhaps still worth the risk, since I think AK is still his most likely hand here.

Unless the idiot had , he had a lot less money after that...

Seriously, I think he probably had AKs, AQs, or JJ and tried to discourage you from drawing to the flush.

Like the majority here,I dont like your call preflop. You only hit the flop 1 in 3 and with the amount of action preflop you arent going to get to see extra cards cheap. Even worse you are risking the oringinal raisor, pushing back over the top and trapping you in the middle here.

After the flop, I agree with what Kenny said first, you need to be agressive here, this is the one of the best flops you could ask for, this is the time to push. First off you might fold another AK like kenny said, and second you want odds to see both cards, you make a borderline call on the turn after you miss, calling in a situation you may be way behind.

Okay... well... I did what Kenny said and didn't post the results until later, but about half of you guys nailed his hand anyway... I would usually push this flop, but I REALLY thought he had KK or QQ (like Ais said, I discounted AA (which probably isn't the best idea) because there were already 2 out), and I was afraid that, when the Ace flops, he would fold Qs or possibly Ks (even though he wasn't THAT good)... When he pushed the turn, I thought I might be in trouble (I was actually thinking AJ at that point), but the fact that I was drawing to the nuts, and that he could just as easily have AQ or KJ (I said he wasn't very good), and that I was getting pretty decent money (2:1 w/ TPTK), I called...

The reason I called PF is cause, even though it didn't seem like it in this hand, I was pushing the table around pretty good... Plus, I had seen a bet and a raise w/ MUCH less than AA and KK already (Saw a K2 v. 99 a few hands earlier) ... I was willing to take my chances there...

Anyways, turned out he had trip Js, and would've called any raise I put out there anyway... Since nobody liked the way I played it anyway, I guess that doesn't change much opinions one way or another...

He was actually pretty cool about the loss, said he would've done the same in my position...