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AQs - Weak fold on the turn?

Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:16 pm

Seat: 1 robbieuk
Seat: 2 xxdemexx
Seat: 3 seminole1 (Dealer)
Seat: 4 Mahvis
Seat: 5 Runforit
Seat: 7 Stoneburg [Ad] [Qd]
Seat: 8 ImperialSF
Seat: 9 nightmare_86
Seat: 10 Dambusted

Table is pretty loose as usual, not too aggressive preflop.

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OpeningBetRound
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Mahvis : Posts small blind 0.10
Runforit : Posts big blind 0.20
Stoneburg : Calls for 0.20
ImperialSF : Folds
nightmare_86 : Calls for 0.20
Dambusted : Folds
robbieuk : Calls for 0.20
xxdemexx : Folds
seminole1 : Folds
Mahvis : Calls for 0.10
Runforit : Checks
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I just limp in with AQs this time. A few months ago I would have raised every time but after finding the BTP forums I've change a lot, I've tightened up a lot UTG and also raise with fewer hands. I have no read on the first caller, second caller is a chaser/bluffer, third caller is LAG.


Flop $1 [Qs] [9s] [5h]
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Mahvis : Checks
Runforit : Checks
Stoneburg : Bets 1.00
nightmare_86 : Calls for 1.00
robbieuk : Folds
Mahvis : Folds
Runforit : Folds
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Pretty straight forward. I flop TPTK, there's a flush and straightdraw out so I bet the pot. I only get one caller. For now I put him on TP, flushdraw or slowplaying a set.

Turn $3 [Td]
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Stoneburg : Bets 3.00
nightmare_86 : Raises for 12.00
Stoneburg : Folds
nightmare_86 : Mucks cards
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Not sure what that Ten means. If he had a really weird straight draw like KJ or J8 he just hit it but he'd be an idiot to cold call a pot bet with a gutshot (even more so when there's a flush draw out), so I bet. When he comes over the top I have absolutely no idea what he has.

When I recap the action I think maybe he cold-called the bet on the flop in order to let more people into the pot, but he shouldn't do that with a set when there's a flushdraw out... of course a lot of people do it anyway. Two hands that make sense are QT and TT of course... I hate when I can't put an opponent on a hand, obviously I am way ahead of a flush draw or a Q with a worse kicker, but I'm drawing dead against TT and slim against QT, all in all I just have to respect a maximum raise on the turn after I bet the pot on the flop and the turn so I fold.



Hmmm... when I played it, it seemed like a tough choice but now when I typed it out it seems like a very easy fold. Heh. Ah well, I've already typed it all out...
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Postby laynegt » Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:25 pm

yeah good fold. you bet pot, pot, and he wakes up on the turn...no problem giving up tptk here.
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