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6max PLO50 A donk, a shark, and me

Postby bigwheell » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:00 am

Should I have gotten all my chips in on the flop.

SB was an idiot and UTG was solid.

I figured UTG for a set.

I would have gladly pushed if my stack was 100BB, but I am not sure how deeper stacks affect pushing like this.


PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($85.35)
SB ($40.90)
BB ($59.25)
UTG ($138.35)
MP ($103.05)
CO ($53.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with AImage, TImage, QImage, 8Image.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB raises to $2.5, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($10) JImage, QImage, 4Image (4 players)
SB bets $9.5, BB folds, UTG raises to $19, Hero folds, SB calls $9.50.

Turn: ($48) 8Image (2 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $19.5, SB calls $19.40 (All-In).

River: ($86.80) 2Image (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $86.81

Results in white below:
SB has Qd Kc Th Kh (one pair, kings).
UTG has Kd 4d 4h 6h (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: UTG wins $86.89.
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Postby Ojingo » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:52 am

Well, that minraise by UTG is a dead givaway that he doesn't mind playing against the shorter player but needs more information before committing against you. He would and should always raise the max with top set; since you have the nfd he'd probably also raise the max with a wrap (or flat call). Anyway, it seems likely he has a weak made hand.
You don't mind playing against the SB since he only has $30 left so ideally you get the deeper player out and play allin against the SB with his AA. So push seems best, you have reasonable folding equity against UTG and great equity against an overpair by SB.
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Postby teknipper » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:20 am

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Postby Ojingo » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:07 pm

By the way, autoraise on the button preflop!
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:56 am

I would have raised it preflop. As played, I would check/raise that flop the max and be happy to...

Get it in 3-ways

or

Get the deep stack out and play against the donkey with TP + double gutter + Nut flush draw. You're way ahead of AA and doing OK against a set. Since you have the Q the top set is unlikely to be out there and since you're repping it, you could get the shark to fold bottom or middle set (I would insta fold bottom and probably fold middle set).
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Postby Anders » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:49 pm

Jeebus Stoneburg a post that isn't "fold preflop"????


Raise PF. It's a nice hand, build that pot in position.

Raise flop as previous posters stated. I don't REALLY mind the fold tho but I'd personally raise this more often than I'd fold it.

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:12 pm

[quote="Ojingo"]Well, that minraise by UTG is a dead givaway that he doesn't mind playing against the shorter player but needs more information before committing against you. [quote]

Another interpretation could be that he and you are reasonably deep here, and this board is draw-heavy, so he's mini-raising his set to allow the bad SB player the opportunity to push, re-opening the pot and allowing him to get all in against you. Something I'd consider doing in this spot with a set if I thought SB was very likely to push, going on previous observation of his play.

I agree that your interpretation is perhaps more likely, but I think this is certainly something worth considering before potentially pushing in nearly two buyins as possibly a reasonably bad underdog. I think I'd just call this, but I don't feel that great about it...
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Postby Ojingo » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:52 am

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