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AKs - Too passive or too aggressive?

Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:45 pm

Seat: 1 Player_X
Seat: 2 Ryaan
Seat: 3 dranti
Seat: 4 pellinore
Seat: 5 keysersoze75 (~$35)
Seat: 6 nister
Seat: 7 Stoneburg (~$60) [Ah] [Kh] (Dealer)
Seat: 8 EmmaDenyer (~$25)
Seat: 9 NoSense
Seat: 10 Turmere

Semi-loose and semi-aggressive table. I am the big stack, have everyone covered. My image is aggressive and some probably think "bluffy" since I have been caught a few times.

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OpeningBetRound
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EmmaDenyer : Posts small blind 0.10
Turmere : Posts big blind 0.20
Player_X : Calls for 0.20
Ryaan : Folds
NoSense : Sits down 0.09
dranti : Folds
pellinore : Folds
keysersoze75 : Raises for 0.80
nister : Folds
Stoneburg : Calls for 0.80
EmmaDenyer : Calls for 0.70

Turmere : Folds
Player_X : Folds
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I just flat call with AKs here. The raiser is pretty liberal with his raises (10% raise preflop) so I don't want to scare off a weaker Ace, also, with AKs I don't mind a multiway pot much. Emma is semi-loose neutral.

Flop $2.80 [Jh] [9c] [2h]
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EmmaDenyer : Bets 1.00
keysersoze75 : Folds
Stoneburg : Calls for 1.00
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Nutflush draw. Original raiser folds. I'm either raising or calling here. She could be betting a set (although I'd expect a CR) or just TPTK. Should I have raised immediatly to find out if she has a set?

Turn $4.80 [Ks]
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EmmaDenyer : Bets 1.40
Stoneburg : Raises for 7.00
EmmaDenyer : Folds

Stoneburg : Mucks cards

Now I have TPTK and the nut flush draw. I decide to put in a raise here but afterwards this seems wrong. She's probably going to fold all worse hands (like AJ) and re-raise with a set. Should I have just called here even though I might be giving her a free shot at spiking two-pair on the river?

Was I too passive preflop and on the flop, then too aggressive on the turn? Should I have re-raised preflop, raised flop and checked turn?
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Postby briachek » Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:33 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:07 pm

You really need to rework the way you post hands. They are hard to read this way. We also dont know how much money villian has.

You'll get more responses if they are easier to respond to.
For instance, I might put the villian all in or might just call the flop depending on how much money he has.
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:56 pm

Two problems:
1. Hand converter doesn't work with HH's from Prima as far as I can tell
2. The stack sizes aren't included in the HH's

I'm manually editing the HH's to make them more readable (obviously doing a shoddy job), I think they are pretty easy to read as they are so I'm going to need a few pointers on how to make them more accessible to you. I'm not sure if the stack sizes are shown in the Expekt client HH and it doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but I can check tomorrow.

W/r/t the hand:

I agree. The correct play, afterwards, seems to be to raise on the flop and check behind on the turn if called, in order to get a free card/induce a bluff. Damnit. Hindsight. Live and learn...
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:06 pm

Stone... while your HHs aren't the prettiest to read, I can manage IF you put your starting BR in... Even if you don't know 100%, just guess... Something like "Villian has $50 and I have him covered..." That'll work for me... Cause Ice is right... It makes a difference whether you're playing someone starting w/ $10 instead of $50...
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:19 pm

I know stack sizet makes a (big) difference I just didn't want to put in too much in-exact information, but from now on I'll be sure to put an estimate in. Also, I tried making the relevant actions bold, hoping that would help readability (you haven't actually told me what it is that makes it hard to read so I'm just guessing here...). At a domestic forum I visit the HH's look like this so I guess I'm just used to it.
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