Agree, if you're trying this to get overpairs and TPTK type hands to call when you have a set, then why not with 2pr?!

Well, I may push 2 pair, but what I really meant was that I push 2 pair only in situations where I'd just normally push that hand (or call for stack).

Hypothetical example: Pot of $10 and $120 in stack depth. I have JTs to a raise and flop comes JT2. If the raiser bets like 7, I'll probably raise to 25 or so rather than shoving the whole 120.

Top 2, at least, is probably fine for the big overbet. My only real justification is giving myself some feeler room on 2 pair, and that may be unnecessary, although it does come into play if someone else in the hand comes alive and appears to have a set.

Just as note (whether or not this actually justifies keeping 2 pair off the overbet-push list): 2 pair is in a lot worse shape than the draws vs. another set (which is going to be a snap call from everyone always, even though bottom set is really not in good shape vs. my current range) and 2 pair isn't a huge favorite vs. overpair.

Anyhow, fwiw, I'm not saying that I won't push 2 pair, but only that that push isn't part of the "overbet plan." That push is one that I'd decide to make or not in the normal course of events.

I'm guessing that adding 2 pair to the list is probably a good idea when you have just a normal full-stack but pulling it back off the list somewhere around double-stack is also desirable.

I think you're missing the point...but maybe not...if you're wanting to shove with a set to get overpairs and TP type hands, then you should do it with 2pr too.

Either way, you're getting WAY too fancy here...

I think you have a point here. I also wasn't doing it with bottom set, only middle set or better on the set end of things. But this is probably a carry-over from the original point of departure of playing deep.

For a full stack, it probably would be better doing it on any set and any 2 pair, maybe going to all sets at double stack, and only middle set or better at triple stack.

I'll have to experiment around with this a bit.

As to their adjustments, here's my impression: Doing it as often as possible until you get called will eventually elicit callers. However, once you have already done it a few times at a table or once you have shown down any particular hand type, it's a good idea to switch strategies. So, if you've gotten called on a set, then start playing sets more normally but play draws only with the push, similarly if you've shown down a draw, then do it only on sets.

I don't think it's a good idea to be completely mechanical here in any case.

The main thing is to do it as often as possible until you've established an image, then choose your spots based on that image.